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  • #61
    Originally posted by Giancarlo


    Your foot keeps going farther up your own rear-end. That must hurt. You are so wrong and your opinion is so grossly misinformed. The elections will go forward. Anyone who holds beliefs contrary to mine when it comes to Iraq, is misinformed arrogant and down-right wrong.

    As planned I mean numb nuts.
    As so Rumsfeld's belief that it is quite possible that large portions of the country will not participate in the elections are " misinformed arrogant and down-right wrong." Like I said before that's good to know.

    Weeeeeeeeeeeeee this is fun.
    Stop Quoting Ben

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    • #62
      Originally posted by Boshko


      As so Rumsfeld's belief that it is quite possible that large portions of the country will not participate in the elections are " misinformed arrogant and down-right wrong." Like I said before that's good to know.

      Weeeeeeeeeeeeee this is fun.
      YOU JUST MESSED UP AGAIN, OMFG. The election will go forward. Any belief that it will not is stupid. 'Nuf said.

      Your foot is going farther and your SELF PWNAGE is growing.
      For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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      • #63
        Originally posted by Giancarlo


        YOU JUST MESSED UP AGAIN, OMFG. The election will go forward. Any belief that it will not is stupid. 'Nuf said.

        Your foot is going farther and your SELF PWNAGE is growing.
        OK, lets just clarify things a bit. Will there or will there not be national elections in Iraq in January?
        Stop Quoting Ben

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        • #64
          Originally posted by Boshko

          OK, lets just clarify things a bit. Will there or will there not be national elections in Iraq in January?
          There will be elections take will take place in January.
          For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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          • #65
            Originally posted by Giancarlo


            There will be elections take will take place in January.
            You didn't answer the question. Will there be national elections in January?
            Stop Quoting Ben

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            • #66
              Originally posted by Boshko

              You didn't answer the question. Will there be national elections in January?
              Again, there will be elections that will take place in January.
              For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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              • #67
                Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
                Saying that everything Allawi said was false is effectively calling him a liar, Ted...
                Not really. He said his perspective was too rosy. I can present an optimisitic forecast, and omit the negative side of the story, but that's still not "lying." Or maybe I just don't know any better and see a situation in a way nobody else does. (Bush does this all the time).

                Secondly, there's a big difference between the impact of calling someone a "liar" and the politically correct way of saying they were saying "false statements."

                Hitting it with some chick, telling her you will call the next day, and then not doing it, THAT'S LYING.

                But the point remains that Ned's "calling him a Liar and Bush a Stooge," is over the top, sensationalist, taken out of context, and an exaggeration.

                But that doesn't surprise me given the GOP fanboys around here who are on the "Kerry's a flipflopper but I can't prove it except for the partisan sites I put in my weblink" wagon.
                Last edited by Ted Striker; September 24, 2004, 02:39.
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                • #68
                  But the point remains that Ned's "calling him a Liar and Bush a Stooge," is over the top, sensationalist, taken out of context, and an exaggeration.


                  Yeah. So what?

                  On-topic, Karl Rove must be creaming his jeans over this statement by Kerry. Kerry had already hurt his chances bad enough by flip-flopping on the Iraq war for the past couple years, but now he's gone and adopted the Howard Dean stance on the war just in time to destroy his support amongst centrists before the election. Rove couldn't have done any better if he was controlling Kerry's campaign himself. Unbelievable...
                  Last edited by Drake Tungsten; September 24, 2004, 04:32.
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                  • #69
                    Kerry has one screw up after another... who is controlling Kerry's campaign anyways? Oh yeah.. Bob Shrum I believe... the one who has been on losing campaigns since George McGovern.
                    For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by loinburger
                      I searched through the article, and couldn't find the words "liar" or "stooge" anywhere. Did you accidentally link to the wrong one?
                      Kerry obviously used more diplomatic language.

                      Later in the day, Democrat lackeys continued their assualt on Allawi on several talk shows. They called him a CIA stooge who blew up buildings conducted other bombings in Iraq for the CIA beginning in the early '90s.

                      F*cking unbelievable.
                      http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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                      • #71
                        He probably did.
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                        He was also a Mukhabarat hitman in the 70's.
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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Drake Tungsten
                          But the point remains that Ned's "calling him a Liar and Bush a Stooge," is over the top, sensationalist, taken out of context, and an exaggeration.


                          Yeah. So what?

                          On-topic, Karl Rove must be creaming his jeans over this statement by Kerry. Kerry had already hurt his chances bad enough by flip-flopping on the Iraq war for the past couple years, but now he's gone and adopted the Howard Dean stance on the war just in time to destroy his support amongst centrists before the election. Rove couldn't have done any better if he was controlling Kerry's campaign himself. Unbelievable...
                          Yep now the Vietnam Senate hearings will definitely find there way into Rove attack ads. Kerry then, Kerry now, any difference?
                          "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                          “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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                          • #73
                            Re: Re: Kerry attacks Allawi, calls him a liar and Bush stooge

                            Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat


                            You mean another unsustainable government of US lackeys and stooges that just ends up being a leech on US manpower and money?
                            At least you and Kerry are consistent. Anybody on our side is your enemy.
                            http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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                            • #74
                              And, oh by the way, another Democrat charged that Bush speechwriters had written Allawi's speech. Their proof -- the speech was too consistent with what Bush has been saying and inconsistent with the gloom and doom types at CBS and the DNC.
                              http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=en

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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by Giancarlo


                                You are the master of kicking yourself in the balls and then kicking your common sense all over the sidewalk. YOU MESSED UP BIG TIME. For several reasons. 1) The election will go as place. Your opinion is grossly misinformed, wrong, inaccurate, anti-american, anti-iraqi and disgusting.

                                [end of post]
                                Where are the rest of the reasons?

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