Kerry attacks Allawi, calls him a liar and Bush stooge

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Gibsie
I thought that article looked fishy- it's Guardian stuff. They write as if the idea that Iraq is a hellhole is concrete fact.

um . . . . . . it IS a hellhole!

[Arrian]

The point re: the Guardian stands, however. Not exactly a paragon of journalistic integrity.

-Arrian

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Re: Re: Re: Kerry attacks Allawi, calls him a liar and Bush stooge

Originally posted by Kontiki


The government has lost all control of Florida? You can't go there right now without getting into a firefight with a bunch of heavily armed militants? Wow, those were some hurricanes!

Joke, Kontiki, joke.

[loinburger]

I searched through the article, and couldn't find the words "liar" or "stooge" anywhere. Did you accidentally link to the wrong one?

[GePap]

I bet you didn't use the Nedaverse dictionary

[rah]

Originally posted by GePap
These Iraqis are our lapdogs right now essentially. After all, the survival of these guys is based solely on 135,000 US troops plus being there to protect them.

And Kerry's political life is on life support if anything appears to be going good in Iraq, so I don't expect Kerry to be saying anything good is happening regardless of reality. Just as I expect Bush to be trying to paint a positive picture since it's in his best interest regardless of reality.

Anyone that is expecting anything else probably should be on drugs.

[GePap]

Originally posted by rah


And Kerry's political life is on life support if anything appears to be going good in Iraq, so I don't expect Kerry to be saying anything good is happening regardless of reality. Just as I expect Bush to be trying to paint a positive picture since it's in his best interest regardless of reality.

The difference is that Kerry's statements have a basis more grounded in that nasty thing called reality.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Well with the lack of confidence most folk have in the media as a whole it seems particularly difficult to make the proper assessment.

[Gibsie]

See, thanks to trash like The Guardian people like GePap think they know exactly how good or bad it is in Iraq. But the Liberal media would never report the good stuff, as they all hate Bush.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Well we can either view/listen to lib media or conservative Fox. Picks and chooses. One says white the other says black.

[GePap]

Which only helps Bush, sadly enough.

If anything, coverage of Iraq is focused on the violence and not deeper problems, like chronic unemployment, the uneven rebuilding efforts, and the issues about the coming elections, such as this attempt by the exile parties to form one single gigantic list, thus giving Iraqis a real "democratic choice"...

[Agathon]

The point re: the Guardian stands, however. Not exactly a paragon of journalistic integrity.

There's nothing wrong with the Guardian. It's a liberal paper, but the news and editorial remain separate, unlike in Murdoch's rags.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Gibsie
See, thanks to trash like The Guardian people like GePap think they know exactly how good or bad it is in Iraq. But the Liberal media would never report the good stuff, as they all hate Bush.

We can acknowledge any progress we might be making in parts of Iraq, but we cannot ignore the serious problems that could ultimately prevent United States and peace-minded Iraqis from achieving their goals.

[Dauphin]

Originally posted by Agathon


There's nothing wrong with the Guardian. It's a liberal paper, but the news and editorial remain separate, unlike in Murdoch's rags.

I'd grant you its no Murdoch paint by numbers (only two numbers, 1 black and 2 white) but The Guardian writes news in an assumptive way, making strong implications and glaring omissions.

[MichaeltheGreat]

Re: Kerry attacks Allawi, calls him a liar and Bush stooge

Originally posted by Ned
Remember, folks, that Kerry was a declared enemy of the government of South Vietnam as well. He is at least consistent on this kind of issue.

You mean another unsustainable government of US lackeys and stooges that just ends up being a leech on US manpower and money?