Attackers seize Russian school

[Kidlicious]

Originally posted by Serb
I'm a walking red propagandad machine, remember?), so I'll stay if you don't mind.

[Ted Striker]

I have to agree with Serb that this attack is the equivalent of 9/11 against America.

This one can be said to be even more insidious because it specifcally targets CHILDREN.

I though the idea of hurting children was universally despised, something unthinkable. Children should be offlimits, no matter what the cause.

This is a sad day, and this for sure should be the top story in our headlines until resolution has been reached.

WHY IN THE **** IS THE CONVENTION THE TOP ****ING HEADLINE, COMPARED TO THIS IT IS IRRELEVENT.



Good luck Russia.

[Serb]

Originally posted by OliverFA
Bush has phoned Putin to offer all his support. That´s the way to go!

UN, after emergency session, condemned this act as well.

[Serb]

Thanks Ted.
You've a pretty an such a big flag now.

[Geronimo]

Originally posted by Comrade Tassadar


I'm not going to start a flamewar (not to mention that Ming might ban me) so I'll say this: Some of the comments in the various Russia-terrorism threads range from slightly inappropriate to extremly inappropriate

I apologize if anything I said seemed to be in poor taste. Let there be no question that my sympathy is as entirely with the russians in this case as it would be for american children held hostage by these sorts of psychotically deranged *******s from chechnya.

[Ted Striker]

Originally posted by Serb
Thanks Ted.
You've a pretty an such a big flag now.

Yeah

I hope that the kids come out of it okay.

This is terrible.

Nobody deserves that.

This picture is heartbreaking.

[Geronimo]

Originally posted by Serb


But Russian army already withdrawn from Chechnya. IIRC there staitioned less than 25 000 regular Russian troops. It's less than two divisions. For a region with population over one million, it's not a something unusual, if you ask me. I believe in my region (with population over 1,5 million) located in the middle of Siberia staitioned more regular troops than in Chechnya. In Chechnya oder maintains by local police forces made of local population. Ironically most of them fought against Russians in first Chechen war.
But the problem is that foreign supporters of terrorist s would never betray their brothers in arms from Chechnya. There is no way in hell that Osama interested in peacefull Caucasus and will withdraw from there. So without extermination of their forign brothers and sponsors we would never defeat them. And I think that Russia should cooperate with foreign countries to fight terrorism more actively. We can't, and no one can win this fight alone.

Amen

[Ted Striker]

I think for those of you who want to troll the Russians on this board, now really isn't the time. Take it somewhere else. (Luckily I haven't seen it in any recent posts).

[Geronimo]

Originally posted by Lancer
"BS"

If it's BS, why bother replying? Take a nice walk.

I can't blame Serb for wanting to address all these posts. This topic obviously hits close to home for him.

[Pekka]

Serb, well you ARE walking propaganda machine

But back to the seize.. it looks really bad now.. they are negotiating, and Rooskies offered them safe escape, but they didn't take it. This has been, apparently, done before and it worked, but these folks are not taking this offer. Also, they don't change the kids to adult hostages, which they have also offered. So far they have said No to everything.

So they don't want to escape. It's looking really bad. It means only few things. I think, it's either Putin gives into demands, or something horrible happens. Putin won't give into demands, that's for sure. If he would, I bet there would be 10 schools seized next week.

Our expert on this matter just was interviewed in TV, and she didn't say anything good about it either. Meaning she said these people are Islamic radicals and are totally expecting to die in there anyway.

When you really start thinkign about it, bold attack would sound a bad idea, esepcially with the promises the terrorists have made, to kill kids for every wounded and killed comrade. But then again, they don't even want to escape. Maybe they wait and wait so the terrorists gets tired and sloppy? I don't know. Hopefully it will be peaceful solution, or Russia 100 terrorists 0 battle.

[Ted Striker]

Sorry I am really lazy Pekka, what are their main demands?

[Ted Striker]

Originally posted by Geronimo


I can't blame Serb for wanting to address all these posts. This topic obviously hits close to home for him.

[Pekka]

I don't know yet. I was listening with one ear open. I'm not sure if they have demanded anything yet, or if they have and what that would be. The expert also said, that it was either these, or the bombing people that have direct connection to the rebel forces. However, these are different group than the ones who did the bomb attack just now.

It seems very high terrorist activity in Russia now. The airliners, bombing, now this.. coincidence? Maybe these groups are working together with their timing to make more impact, I don't know.

[Vince278]

Originally posted by Serb
A couple of hours ago my radio said that there is a fire in that school and some firefighters cars were aproaching the building. No additional info about the source or scale of fire. It's also said that terroists threated to blow-up whole building in case of siege and to kill 50 children for any dead terrorist and 20 children for any wounded terrorist.

F*ckers.

I see someone got you started on WW II and I missed it. (By the way, the Great Patriotic War was neither great nor patriotic. Surely you can hear the propaganda in the name? )

We're still praying for the safety of the children here. Keep us posted.

[Hurricane]

Originally posted by Serb
But Russian army already withdrawn from Chechnya. IIRC there staitioned less than 25 000 regular Russian troops. It's less than two divisions. For a region with population over one million, it's not a something unusual, if you ask me. I believe in my region (with population over 1,5 million) located in the middle of Siberia staitioned more regular troops than in Chechnya.

I'm not advocating a russian withdrawal from Chechnya.

In Chechnya oder maintains by local police forces made of local population. Ironically most of them fought against Russians in first Chechen war.
But the problem is that foreign supporters of terrorist s would never betray their brothers in arms from Chechnya. There is no way in hell that Osama interested in peacefull Caucasus and will withdraw from there. So without extermination of their forign brothers and sponsors we would never defeat them. And I think that Russia should cooperate with foreign countries to fight terrorism more actively. We can't, and no one can win this fight alone.

What I see as the main problem is that the Russian army isn't doing any of that. All the main terrorist leaders are roaming freely around, and there have been no Russian successes worth mentioning in capturing any of them in a looong time. Instead, the army is just sitting around, or profiting from the local population or working the black market.