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  • Originally posted by Serb
    ers.


    Originally posted by Serb
    Russians could kick anyone arses on this planet and destroy the planet itself after evaquation of its hevy industry and population on Mars.
    Now I know you can't possibly believe that.
    When was the last time a Russian actually left orbit (or for that matter, the first time)?
    "And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country. My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man." -- JFK Inaugural, 1961
    "Extremism in the defense of liberty is not a vice." -- Barry Goldwater, 1964 GOP Nomination acceptance speech (not George W. Bush 40 years later...)
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    • Originally posted by Vince278






      Now I know you can't possibly believe that.
      When was the last time a Russian actually left orbit (or for that matter, the first time)?
      Why does it matter? How does it even tangently tie in with the plight of these poor kids? Since you don't seem to have exceeded your thread limit yet why not make another thread promoting your opinion of relative strength of various militaries?

      It's one thing to threadjack someones bored troll but this thread deals with something that is arguably the worst sort of atrocity that can be commited and it still hangs in the balance right at this moment.

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      • Well Hurricane,
        I don't know why you have this impression, but Russians systematecally hunt for terrorist's leaders and kill those bastards. Their first leader Dudaev ened up as target for Russian guided missile which send him to directly to Allah. Basaev now has only one leg, since he stepped on Russian mine while was running with tail between his legs, because Russians were coming after him and were pretty close. Thier Arab friend, leader and brother in arms - Hattab was elimenated. Two ****s who planned explosions of appartment buildings in Moscow 1999 were killed in Chechnya, the third was captured and faced the court. The last one is still hiding, but sooner or later they'll find him. Salman Raduev another legendary figure for terrorists (he commanded attack on Kizlyar, iirc where hospital with pregnent woman has been captured) was also captured, faced a court and recieved a life sentance, but died in jail not so long ago . The last loud act of Russian counter-terrosrist forces, was extermination of another legendary leader of terrorists - Zelimhan Yandarbiev in Qatar.
        It's only what comes to mind right now, but the list is way bigger. Russians search for terrorists and kill the bastards, I can assure you.
        Last edited by Serb; September 2, 2004, 10:51.

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        • Originally posted by Vince278






          Now I know you can't possibly believe that.
          When was the last time a Russian actually left orbit (or for that matter, the first time)?
          Vince

          Cut it out

          This isn't the time.
          We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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          • It's ok Ted.

            Vince just forgot that entire international space station (half of it has made in Russia label, btw), still stays on orbit only thanks to Russian spaceships.

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            • Originally posted by Heresson


              Stalin is responsible for Chechnian mess. It's him who deported them and made them hate Moscow even more than thye did before.
              When the hell you'll understand that there were WAR, they were supporting the enemy. And it was a war measure to deport them. This measure had a 100% rate effect- there were no more support for nazi. Had they didn't support nazis, it would never happen.

              USSR wasn't a "motherland" to Chechenians, to Ukrainians, to Lithuanians or Latvians. It was occupying their motherlands. That's why many of them supported
              Germany. It's sad, and some of the mentioned did a lot of harm to Polish people, and generally fought on the wrong side, but Soviet side wasn't any better. The fight between USSR and III Reich wasn't a fight between the good and the evil, it was a fight between less wrong and more wrong.

              Sometimes you really piss me of.
              just a bit of reminder- your, YOUR own existance was possible only thanks to Soviets who saved your nation from complete extermination by nazis. Hundreds of thousands of Soviet troops died in Poland while fighting the nazis, who would otherwise exterminte Poles as Slavs and inferior humans.
              Now you call those people the same evil as Hitler.



              Before Iraq, I'd laugh of that
              Don't worry, Polish army would have sucked in Iraq waaaaaay deeper than Americans do now.
              Do you still use cavalry armed with Javelins to charge tanks?
              Last edited by Serb; September 2, 2004, 01:49.

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              • Originally posted by Serb
                Hundreds of thousands of Soviet troops died in Poland while fighting the nazis, who would otherwise exterminte Poles as Slavs and inferior humans.
                Now you call those people the same evil as Hitler.
                Well these are the same people that saw fit to gut his country and divide the spoils of the adventure with the Nazis.
                I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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                • Originally posted by Ted Striker
                  Vince

                  Cut it out

                  This isn't the time.

                  Enough with the dogpile already. I concede the point and I apologize. I challenge the others who strayed to do the same. Again, my apologies to everyone.

                  Back to topic:

                  Whats the latest? News is slow here.
                  "And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country. My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man." -- JFK Inaugural, 1961
                  "Extremism in the defense of liberty is not a vice." -- Barry Goldwater, 1964 GOP Nomination acceptance speech (not George W. Bush 40 years later...)
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                  • Originally posted by DinoDoc
                    Well these are the same people that saw fit to gut his country and divide the spoils of the adventure with the Nazis.
                    It wasn't the first time. Poland and Russia has special relationships. Both did that kind of stuff (backstab) to each other before, at every opportunity. Does it somehow changes the fact that without Soviets there would be no Poles today and that thousands of Soviet soldiers died fighting nazis in Poland?

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                    • Originally posted by Vince278
                      Whats the latest? News is slow here.
                      They indetified some of the terrorists. Minister od internal affairs of Ossetia siad that among terrorists are Osetins, Ingushes, Chechens and Russians.

                      From another newspaper I read that some soldiers who guards the perimeter heard Arab speech.

                      So looks like like gang of international mother****ers.

                      Bad news - terrorists use dogs as "alive gaz analyzers". So they are prepared for gaz attack.
                      Last edited by Serb; September 2, 2004, 03:27.

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                      • About 400 hastages there, not 354 as it was said earlier.

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                        • Thanks. I just heard they have a pediatrician helping with the negotiations and he was also someone who helped out at the Moscow theater.
                          "And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country. My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man." -- JFK Inaugural, 1961
                          "Extremism in the defense of liberty is not a vice." -- Barry Goldwater, 1964 GOP Nomination acceptance speech (not George W. Bush 40 years later...)
                          2004 Presidential Candidate
                          2008 Presidential Candidate (for what its worth)

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                          • Yes it's the same doctor. He talked with them last night. No further news about negotiations.

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                            • I still don't know what to say. I just keep hoping for the small chance of this situation ending with minimal harm and loss to the hostages and their loved ones.

                              And I'd like to see reported a stronger reaction of condemnation from the people these terrorists claim to represent. Same as usual, I guess...

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                              • Winston is correct. If I was Chechen people, I'd be pretty much fixing up the old cinemaphotographer and calling all news station to make a condemning statement.

                                Gas analysers you say.. have they said what is the amount of these terrorists?
                                In da butt.
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