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  • #31
    Originally posted by Park Avenue
    This is really a victory over the terrorists, and it shows their plotting and murdering will never sway the American or Iraqi people to do what they want.

    to do what YOU want to put it correctly
    "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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    • #32
      Originally posted by dannubis


      to do what YOU want to put it correctly
      Well if it was up to your country, Saddam would still be murdering people.
      For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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      • #33
        Dan Rather (be a hammer than a nail...sorry, lyric from a song...couldn't resist ) said that this move seemed to be indicative of just how bad things are on the ground in Iraq.


        Of course Dan Rather said that.
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        • #34
          Originally posted by Giancarlo


          Well if it was up to your country, Saddam would still be murdering people.
          that has nothing to do with what i was trying to point out.

          the iraqi's have nothing to say in their own country right now. and i wonder who will be allowed to take part in this free elections that are to be organized... all parties or only those who you deem non terrorist?

          and it is not that the prime cause of death in iraq these days is "natural causes".
          "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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          • #35
            This government faces an uphill battle to survive let alone establish any credibility whilst US troops remain on the ground.

            I think only political talks involving all Iraqi parties, a UN peacekeeping force and UN supervised elections have any chance of success.

            Kofi should say to Bush: come with me if you want to live.
            Any views I may express here are personal and certainly do not in any way reflect the views of my employer. Tis the rising of the moon..

            Look, I just don't anymore, okay?

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            • #36
              Originally posted by DRoseDARs
              Dan Rather (be a hammer than a nail...sorry, lyric from a song...couldn't resist ) said that this move seemed to be indicative of just how bad things are on the ground in Iraq.
              Riiiiight. People were saying that we would never hand over sovereignty, and so would find a way to delay, delay, delay.

              So we hand it over a few days early, and what happens?

              "This is a bad sign"

              No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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              • #37
                We transfer power two days earlier than scheduled in an attempt to save lives against any staged attack...and this is a bad thing?

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                • #38
                  While the transfer of power is a good thing, it is only a partial transfer of power. And the change of date shows that something is wrong. The coming six months will tell if it works, but I'm not so optimistic.
                  So get your Naomi Klein books and move it or I'll seriously bash your faces in! - Supercitizen to stupid students
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                  • #39
                    This can only end in anarchy.

                    Hell I'm happy
                    Res ipsa loquitur

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                    • #40
                      Anarchy can't exist. Not while US/coalition forces are there. So kiss my behind, and which flag is that in your avatar? Ah yes, Angola.. go move there.
                      For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                      • #41


                        and how would you describe the state of iraq right now then ?

                        a very stable democracy ?
                        "Ceterum censeo Ben esse expellendum."

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                        • #42
                          Originally posted by dannubis


                          and how would you describe the state of iraq right now then ?

                          a very stable democracy ?
                          Nope. It is transitioning. The country has to be secured by this government.

                          But if it was up to you leftists in Europe, Saddam would still be ruling. Or worse, the now long dead Uday.
                          For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                          • #43
                            Or worse, Gary Coleman
                            "I predict your ignore will rival Ben's" - Ecofarm
                            ^ The Poly equivalent of:
                            "I hope you can see this 'cause I'm [flipping you off] as hard as I can" - Ignignokt the Mooninite

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                            • #44
                              It's nice to note the massive attacks just prior to the switch may now become the massive attacks right after the switch.

                              We can now start on a new ledger.
                              If you don't like reality, change it! me
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                              • #45
                                I twill be interesting the response when the attacks come. Word has it that the Iraqis thought the US response was too soft in many cases.
                                "Just puttin on the foil" - Jeff Hanson

                                “In a democracy, I realize you don’t need to talk to the top leader to know how the country feels. When I go to a dictatorship, I only have to talk to one person and that’s the dictator, because he speaks for all the people.” - Jimmy Carter

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