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    Teen abstinence vows get so-so results

    Pledge doesn't cut rate of disease, study says

    March 10, 2004

    FREE PRESS NEWS SERVICES

    PHILADELPHIA -- Teens who make a onetime pledge to remain virgins until marriage catch sexually transmitted diseases about as often as those who don't pledge abstinence, according to a study of the sex lives of 12,000 adolescents.

    But a pledge to refrain from premarital sex, the researchers found, did tend to delay the start of sexual intercourse by 18 months. The adolescents who took virginity pledges also married earlier and had fewer sex partners than the other teenagers surveyed, said Dr. Peter Bearman, the chairman of the sociology department at Columbia University and the lead author of the study.

    Of the 12,000 teenagers included in the federal study, 88 percent of those who pledged chastity reported having had sexual intercourse before they married, Bearman said at a scientific meeting in Philadelphia.

    The researchers tested the participants for three common sexually transmitted infections -- chlamydia, gonorrhea and trichomoniasis -- and found that the rates were almost identical for the teenagers who took pledges and those who did not.

    Yet the teens who had taken pledges were less likely to know they had an infection, raising the risk of their transmitting it to other people, said Bearman and Hannah Brueckner of Yale University, the other author of the report.

    Bearman said that telling teenagers "to 'Just say no,' without understanding risk or how to protect oneself from risk, turns out to create greater risk" of sexually transmitted diseases.

    Data from the study came from the National Longitudinal Study of Adolescent Health. That study was funded in part by the National Institute of Child Health and Human Development and the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. The study first questioned 12- to 18-year-olds and followed up on them six years later.

    Critics of abstinence-only education saw the findings as evidence that adolescents benefit from sex education.

    "It's a tragedy if we withhold from these kids information about how not to get STDs or not to get pregnant," said Dorothy Mann, executive director of the Family Planning Council, an organization backing reproductive health services.


    those horny bastards.
    B♭3

  • #2
    Saw this.

    99% of kids who do not pledge have intercourse before they are married.

    88% of those who take a pledge do the same.

    So pledges are having an effect.

    All of those who successfully abstain do not get stds, unlike the folks who use condoms or the pill, who even if they use them properly, can still get stds.
    Last edited by Ben Kenobi; March 10, 2004, 05:30.
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    • #3
      Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
      Stuff
      Ah, but you missed this part

      Yet the teens who had taken pledges were less likely to know they had an infection, raising the risk of their transmitting it to other people, said Bearman and Hannah Brueckner of Yale University, the other author of the report.
      Titans, GO!

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      • #4
        Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
        Stuff
        I'm consitently stupid- Japher
        I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- Ned

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        • #5
          Also missed the part where the kids got married earlier.

          In my experience that's usually done to justify having sex yet fulfilling their pledges.
          I'm consitently stupid- Japher
          I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- Ned

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          • #6
            I'm holding so far

            (btw, I haven't made a "pledge", but don't really plan on doing anything with anyone except someone I'm in a really firm committment with/married to.)

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Kucinich
              I'm holding so far
              Please don't tell us anymore
              “It is no use trying to 'see through' first principles. If you see through everything, then everything is transparent. But a wholly transparent world is an invisible world. To 'see through' all things is the same as not to see.”

              ― C.S. Lewis, The Abolition of Man

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              • #8
                Oh, yes, darling- I've got a firm committment for you- IN MY PANTS!!!
                I'm consitently stupid- Japher
                I think that opinion in the United States is decidedly different from the rest of the world because we have a free press -- by free, I mean a virgorously presented right wing point of view on the air and available to all.- Ned

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Theben
                  Oh, yes, darling- I've got a firm committment for you- IN MY PANTS!!!
                  Oh yeah! I've got a committment for you- IN MY SCABBARD!!!
                  "I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!

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                  • #10
                    All of those who successfully abstain do not get stds,
                    Unless, of cource, they marry someone carrying a std.

                    unlike the folks who use condoms or the pill, who even if they use them properly, can still get stds.
                    Using the pill has indeed a very limited effect when it comes to stopping the spead of std.
                    (edit: Unless you consider offspring to be a form of std...)
                    Last edited by Kropotkin; March 10, 2004, 10:09.

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                    • #11
                      The point isnt that abstinence has no value, the point is that parents should educate their children about other methods to reduce chance of STD (i.e. "safe-sex").
                      We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
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                      • #12
                        I really can't take seriously the idea that God cares about teenagers having sex.

                        I can take seriously the idea that it was a problem for the ancient Hebrews, who had no effective forms of contraception, and I could see why they'd want to make it a divine command. But now?
                        Only feebs vote.

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                        • #13
                          What does god have to do with it?
                          We need seperate human-only games for MP/PBEM that dont include the over-simplifications required to have a good AI
                          If any man be thirsty, let him come unto me and drink. Vampire 7:37
                          Just one old soldiers opinion. E Tenebris Lux. Pax quaeritur bello.

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                          • #14
                            "What does god have to do with it?"

                            Hear hear!

                            If only there was more if this thinking...
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                            • #15
                              Originally posted by SpencerH
                              The point isnt that abstinence has no value, the point is that parents should educate their children about other methods to reduce chance of STD (i.e. "safe-sex").

                              Glad to see some conservatives still have a brain.
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