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If enough people make the statement, then yes, he is going to listen to you.
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Are the moderates more likely to stick with Bush than the so-called Christian coalition? Ponder that for awhile.
If enough people make the statement, then yes, he is going to listen to you.Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
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well, i'm moderate, and i already know i can't support bush this coming election.
i can't stand anybody else, but bush has spent my future on his stupid attempt to buy the elderly vote.B♭3Comment
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Are the moderates more likely to stick with Bush than the so-called Christian coalition?
No. Didn't even have to ponder it a while
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If enough people make the statement, then yes, he is going to listen to you.
The problem is that he won't. He knows they'll vote for him in the end (or he thinks they will). Bush has shown a HUGE predilection for refusing to listen to people who disagree with him.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
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He may have voted for NAFTA then, but he supports tariffs in a heartbeat to preserve American jobs.I believe he voted for it in '94 and hasn't said he wants to repeal it. In fact, Kucinich hammed the major primary opponents for ALL being for NAFTA.Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
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You're not a republican moderate for the last time. At best you are a democrat moderate.Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Indeed... it's hilarious for Fez to say what he did.
I'm sure che would like another soldier to his cause, but he knows I'm not it. It is precisely BECAUSE I'm a Republican moderate that this choice tortures me so.
At any rate, I was just joking about that comparsion. Geez, lighten up boy.
For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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Ah hell folks, moderate and conservative are just titles people like to throw out. There are some fundamental ideals that we subscribe to and I think we should recognize those before we start back biting eachother.Comment
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fez, what makes you a moderate republican?B♭3Comment
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Because I say so.Originally posted by Q Cubed
fez, what makes you a moderate republican?
For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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He may have voted for NAFTA then, but he supports tariffs in a heartbeat to preserve American jobs.
From what I've seen the only tariffs he backs is if our trading partners violate their obligations under the treaty for labor and environmental standards... then the tariffs come back up. Kind of like a breach of contract. I'm not too fond of it, but I can see his point.“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)Comment
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fez, that's not good enough.
what makes you a moderate republican, as opposed to a strongly conservative republican, which your rhetoric rather clearly suggests?B♭3Comment
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Because I say so.
In that case, you must recognize me as a moderate Republican. Hell, I've been affiliated with the Republican Party much longer than you have and have held more leadership roles within it
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“I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
- John 13:34-35 (NRSV)Comment
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I'd ask why you're a Republican in the first place?
Campaign Finance Reform? Bush signed that into law, although Democrats are now finding ways to flout it through sites like moven.org
Balanced budgets? Bush did go overboard, but he is recently putting forward a plan to slash the deficit. They recently did an analysis of Kerry's plans and his proposed expenditures overcost the amount of his propred tax increases by around $200 bil.
Kerry has also never been a proponent of balanced budgets and has opposed them many time throughout his career.
"And Kerry with a Republican Congress ensures nothing gets done = bliss. "
And what if he gets a Democratic Congress sometime during his presidency. Sure, it isn't likely to happen in 2004, but it could happen later in his career.
"I HATE that he totally stuck a middle finger to the world. I mean do you think France and Russia were interested in fighting Iraq in 1991? NO, of course not! But Bush, the elder, was a good diplomat. He got them to go along with it. "
So you are blaming America first and George W. Bush for France's obstinancy?
Colin Powell and his team did make every effort to reconcile them, but France would not budge. 1991 was a different situation, the war was easier to support as Iraq had invaded another country.
Check out Kerry's record if you need to Imran. He has for his entire career been on the far left and opposed nearly every traditional Republican value. Kerry opposed Reagan, and he opposed GHWB in Gulf War I. I don't see why anybody who calls themself a Republican of any flavor would be inclined to support Kerry."I'm moving to the Left" - Lancer
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Environmental standards? Sounds like a neat way to raise tariffs to protect american jobs.From what I've seen the only tariffs he backs is if our trading partners violate their obligations under the treaty for labor and environmental standards... then the tariffs come back up.
Why do you think he hammers Bush so much for lifting the steel tariffs?Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
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You want the watered down version?Originally posted by Q Cubed
fez, that's not good enough.
what makes you a moderate republican, as opposed to a strongly conservative republican, which your rhetoric rather clearly suggests?
Iraq War - I am for it
Abortion - I am against it but will make compromises when rape is involved
Religious Charities - Keep it out of government
Gay marriage - Totally FOR
Bush Tax Cuts - For
What does that make me? Moderate.For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)Comment
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Alright, I'll bite, what leadership roles? I might know your people if you were in the same circles.Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
Because I say so.
In that case, you must recognize me as a moderate Republican. Hell, I've been affiliated with the Republican Party much longer than you have and have held more leadership roles within it.
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