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  • #76
    You are a leftist because you wanna vote for Kerry.


    Keep 'em coming Fezzie.

    John Kerry isn't against affirmative action.


    I know that... but it ain't going away anytime soon. the SCOTUS has curtailed it as much as it is going to be (most AA is on the state level anyway).
    “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
    - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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    • #77
      Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
      Ah county chairs .

      Bob Franks you may have heard of. He was the one who lost to Senator Corzine after getting outspent 17:1 in the general election. Senator Corzine spend $30 mill in the primaries (to knock of former Governor Jim Florid) and $30 mill in the general.
      Actually, I have heard of Bob Franks. I still have a few friends who live in Jersey. Anyone talking about the whole government consolidation deal (combined county and city services)?

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      • #78
        Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
        You are a leftist because you wanna vote for Kerry.


        Keep 'em coming Fezzie.
        You know I'm just joking around with you, and it is Giancarlo. The nick Fez is long gone.

        I'm also against Affirmative Action.
        For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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        • #79
          Haven't heard of that. Not been paying attention much to what is going on in Jersey lately.
          “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
          - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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          • #80
            "I know that... but it ain't going away anytime soon. the SCOTUS has curtailed it as much as it is going to be (most AA is on the state level anyway)."

            But with the judiciary getting older and older, it's likely Kerry if elected would be a chance to name some of their replacements if elected.
            "I'm moving to the Left" - Lancer

            "I imagine the neighbors on your right are estatic." - Slowwhand

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            • #81
              Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
              Haven't heard of that. Not been paying attention much to what is going on in Jersey lately.
              You weren't perhaps in the Field Program, were you?

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              • #82
                But with the judiciary getting older and older, it's likely Kerry if elected would be a chance to name some of their replacements if elected.


                There happens to be a thing called precedent, my boy.

                You weren't perhaps in the Field Program, were you?


                No, I personally wasn't. Some other people I knew (under me at Rutgers) were.
                “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                • #83
                  "There happens to be a thing called precedent, my boy."

                  And it's good a thing precedent isn't infallible or else you might not be able to end law school with White law students. The Court has changed in the contents of it's decision based on it's prevailing ideology in the past and can well do so again.
                  "I'm moving to the Left" - Lancer

                  "I imagine the neighbors on your right are estatic." - Slowwhand

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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

                    You weren't perhaps in the Field Program, were you?


                    No, I personally wasn't. Some other people I knew (under me at Rutgers) were.
                    Alright, I'll stop asking. Nice to see a fellow CR alumni though.

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                    • #85
                      Does anyone else here remember, for Irony's sake, when Imran once predicted Giancarlo would become on the moderate left.

                      My how tables have turned.
                      "I'm moving to the Left" - Lancer

                      "I imagine the neighbors on your right are estatic." - Slowwhand

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                      • #86
                        The Court has changed in the contents of it's decision based on it's prevailing ideology in the past and can well do so again.


                        Do you know how extrodinarily tough that is? There have been few cases (relative to total case load) which have been completely overruled. And I don't really don't see how AA can be further expanded anytime soon.

                        [q]Alright, I'll stop asking.[q]

                        Heh... you can continue if you want... though I may have been a bad President .

                        Nice to see a fellow CR alumni though.


                        Likewise. I'm just trying to figure out what to do seeing my past with this party and how it seems hell bent on running away from me.
                        “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                        - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                        • #87
                          "Do you know how extrodinarily tough that is? "

                          But it can has happen, has happened, and will happen in the future. And by letting Kerry pick the judiciary, you can bet you won't get a SCOTUS majority in favor of renouncing AA for decades.
                          "I'm moving to the Left" - Lancer

                          "I imagine the neighbors on your right are estatic." - Slowwhand

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                          • #88
                            Originally posted by DinoDoc
                            I dunno. Voting for Kerry doesn't seem like something a moderate Republican would do. With him being a higher rated liberal than even Ted Kennedy and all. I'd think they'd be more at home with the Libertarians.
                            I'm hoping that this is the year that those who are serious about shrinking government finally vote for a third party. Preferably Libertarian, but if not, then whatever party best fits their principles. Maybe it will throw the election to Kerry like Nader did for Dubya, but so what? What's Kerry going to do that's worse than Bush? Run record deficits? Put in a massive new entitlement program? Throw money at the NEA?
                            "THE" plus "IRS" makes "THEIRS". Coincidence? I think not.

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                            • #89
                              Good thread, Imran. Sort of a Republican support group, you know?

                              Like a lot of people on this thread I defined myself as "socially left/fiscally right", which to the average schlub essentially means a smaller government, less taxes, and pro-choice. Tragically we have found ourselves with the Republican variant of Lyndon Baines Johnson; a president who loves to fight wars, both social and military, and will spare no cost in doing so. Dubya has shown himself to be "Socially right/fiscally left" in just about every decision he has made: tariffs, budgets, wars, Patriot Act, gays, stem cells, science funding, hell, even the Janet Jackson thing a month ago... is this all the FCC has to work on?

                              I didn't want this. To give y'all an idea of what sort of Republicans Laura and I are/were, back in 1997 we had 50 "Forbes 2000" bumper stickers printed up at our cost and passed them out around town. I don't even think his campaign made it to Georgia in 2000, but I'm pretty damned sure that if we had actually elected that sad-looking man to the presidency we wouldn't be talking about a constitutional amendment legalizing discrimination. :sigh:

                              As far as this election is concerned, I'll take a better look at Kerry than I did Al Gore, that is for certain. Whether or not I vote for him remains to be seen... but I am not going to dismiss the Democratic nominee as before.

                              Last edited by JohnT; March 7, 2004, 03:14.

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                              • #90
                                Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                                From what I've seen the only tariffs he backs is if our trading partners violate their obligations under the treaty for labor and environmental standards... then the tariffs come back up. Kind of like a breach of contract. I'm not too fond of it, but I can see his point.
                                OK, this thread is quite, well the shame.

                                BUT, America punishing other countries for not following environmental initiatives... this I can't stand without LMAO

                                In Soviet Russia, Fake borises YOU.

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