Gay Marriage views at Apolyton

[Ben Kenobi]

Hitler may have agreed with me on things like the provision of state health care, but I wouldn't defend him merely because of that.

And neither does my defense of phelps here imply that I defend him in all circumstances.

[Ben Kenobi]

Fags commit more than 33% of all reported child molestations in the United States, which, assuming fags make up 2% of the population, means that 1 in 20 fags is a child molestor, while 1 in 490 heterosexuals is a child molestor

Why is this unjustified? What is his source for these statistics?

33% of fags ADMIT to minor/adult sex

Just because he says something does not make this automatically false. What proof does he offer for the claim?

Fags live filthy, unhealty, dangerous, unhappy, and in many cases, violent lives

While I would not suggest that all of these statements apply, just being promiscious is going to be unhealthy.

equation of homosexuality to:

Why not equate homosexuality to pedophilia? You are a philosopher, so refute the man.

Jew/Homo-Fascist/Pink Swastika Tyranny/Same-Sex Marriage Holocaustic machine calling itself the Democratic Party (ditto Republicans) leading America irreversibly to eternal perdition!

His brush is rather wide, and I do not see any indication that he would desire to narrow the brush to only tar Jews.

[Ben Kenobi]

How very dreary of you, Obi Gyn.

I never implied I was the life of the party.

[molly bloom]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi

Why is this unjustified? What is his source for these statistics?

Just because he says something does not make this automatically false. What proof does he offer for the claim?

While I would not suggest that all of these statements apply, just being promiscious is going to be unhealthy.

Why not equate homosexuality to pedophilia? You are a philosopher, so refute the man.

His brush is rather wide, and I do not see any indication that he would desire to narrow the brush to only tar Jews.

So you don't do independent checks on the research of people you quote?

You're content to promote inaccuracy and prejudice and hate, as long as you can glena some 'facts' however dubious to promote your religionista agenda?

Yes, I think I understand how you put Christian love into practice now. I also understand the meaning of 'whited sepulchre'.

While you're at it, why not equate heterosexuality with bestiality and necrophilia, give us the percentage of children molested by a heterosexual family member or friend of the family, and some statistics for heterosexual promiscuity.

[Ming]

Originally posted by molly bloom
Yes, I think I understand how you put Christian love into practice now. I also understand the meaning of 'whited sepulchre'.

What part of "discuss the topic and not the people" do you not understand?

[MrBaggins]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi

Why not equate homosexuality to pedophilia? You are a philosopher, so refute the man.

Why not equate connection to the Catholic church to a predilection to pedophilia? After all, Catholic priests abuse children.

[Ben Kenobi]

So you don't do independent checks on the research of people you quote?

I get source called quite frequently, so I try to find the best source I can.

However, my point still stands, that just because Fred Phelps says something does not mean that he is automatically incorrect.

Even a blind horse can find water.

[Ben Kenobi]

Why not equate connection to the Catholic church to a predilection to pedophilia? After all, Catholic priests abuse children.

4% accused is not many, when you consider that this fact is reported by folks who are not inclined to protect the church, and that not all allegations will prove true.

Secondly, you still have not managed to refute Fred Phelps. Surely you can do better than this.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Rogan Josh


Where is the nasty slur in what you quoted? Gay men are, by definition, butt****ers surely? (Or is my implication that gay men have gay sex a nasty slur? )

Bullsh*t!

You knew the context in your use of this word was a bigoted slur, so stop pretending innocence.

[Jaguar]

MrFun, you know you enjoy it.

[MrFun]

You have the worst timing with attempts at humor, don't you, Jaguar??

[Jaguar]

I am going to clown about in this thread, because it is heading for disaster.

[Kuciwalker]

finally voted, for option #3

[Jaguar]

#3 w00t!

[Agathon]

I'm going to be bad and post about a person.

Ming - I have never seen him so gun shy... what's up?

Anyway, Ben I'll pick one: homosexuality is distinct from paedophilia in that children cannot consent to sex and that it seems to irreparably damage them in most cases. You can quibble about when someone is mature enough to consent but that doesn't mean that there is some age when they aren't old enough, nor does it hide the fact that paedophiles visit a form of abuse on their victims.

Neither is the case in homosexual relationships. Generally, both parties consent and both find the experience enriching rather than abusive.