Israeli vandalises Swedish suicide bomber art

[Edan]

Originally posted by Boris Godunov
The caption of the artwork details the act of this women describing it as a murder of innocents

While also using Snow White as an analogy, calling her an "innocent heart being devoured by wild beasts" and a "poor child"

3) Her picture is floating in pool representing the blood of her victims

Yes, in perfect makeup looking "innocent" and floating and untouched and unmarred by that blood. The artwork tries to dismiss her culpability, that she's simply a mother of two and a lawyer who just happened to be in a messed up world that placed her in such a situation when in reality, she is guilty of the brutal murder of twenty one people, she was the one responsible for her actions. That she should be portrayed in the manner she was is disgusting and certainly inappropriate in an exhibition on genocide who's scope was not supposed to cover the Israeli-Palestinian conflict.

[Combat Ingrid]

Originally posted by Edan
Yes, in perfect makeup looking "innocent"

That's the main point of the artwork for crying out loud!

You complained noone is reading your posts but it seems you didn't bother to read any of the posts discussing the irony of that picture. Let me help you:

Originally posted by Boris Godunov
Some people--apparently not the ambassador or you--are smart enough to see it as bitter irony.

[cinch]

The whole point that this thread seems to be heading towards is: This artwork can be interpreted in many ways.

I, and others (also known as the "sane people"), see it as a depressing, but thought-provoking, piece of art focusing on certain bits of irony concerning a female suicide bomber.

Others, mysteriously, see it as a way of glorifying murder.

Either way: It's art. No one was hurt in the making of this piece; it advocates neither violence nor hatred towards anyone. So what's the problem? Let different people interpret it as they may. But don't destroy the piece that someone's worked hard to create.

I don't think artists should be punished or denigrated simply because certain people don't get their original intentions, or interpret the piece in a way that offends them. Doesn't seem fair, to me.

[Edan]

Originally posted by Combat Ingrid


That's the main point of the artwork for crying out loud!

You complained noone is reading your posts but it seems you didn't bother to read any of the posts discussing the irony of that picture. Let me help you:

I understand the "irony" but the artwork still tries to dismiss her culpability. "She commited the murder, but hey, she was a mother of two and a lawyer and it's really the crazy misguided world thats at fault, not her, because she's really a pure, innocent poor child trying not to be devoured by beasts in a mad mad world."

[cinch]

Originally posted by Edan


I understand the "irony"

No, obviously, you don't.

[Edan]

Originally posted by cinch


No, obviously, you don't.

Coming from someone who splits up people who agree with your interpretation and those who don't as 'sane' or not, I think the best way to deal with your critque of my abilities as an art-critic is:

[Whaleboy]

Free speech!!!

The vandal should be arrested and tried for criminal damages, and made to pay compensation to the artist and the museum. Does it ever occur to some people that a piece of art has deeper meaning than "poor taste", or an attempt to be contentious? As a Jew myself, I can say with great justification that we need to stop being so paranoid! Sure the holocaust happened and sure people are blowing themselves up killing children etc. That does not give Jews or Israelis a blank cheque and the rest of us a blind eye. History would judge such behaviour (which I find to be indicative of a wider problem (see above)) as wholly unwise and unjustified.

[Nubclear]

When I first came to America, I lived in a small house in Chicago.
The neighbor was playing his music incredibly loud and it was night, so I politely asked him to stop.
He began going off on how:

-His family survived the holocaust and the evil Russians like me,
-His family comes from a long line of Jews
-Israel has the right to exist and the Arabs need to get out of the middle east, and
-I'm anti semite.

Your right, you do need to stop being so paranoid and learn that while the holocaust did happen and it was horrible, it does not mean that Anti-Semitism is "worse" than other forms of religious intolerance and that Jews don't always need to be mentioned in a special light.
I'm sorry, but the holocaust can't be invoked to deflect everything and I'm tired of seeing it used as such.

[Ben Kenobi]

You don't find it interesting, winston, to think about why an educated woman who (indeed) looks like Snow White decides to commit such a horrible deed?

True evil appears good. I agree with Buck Birdseed, that the picture does not exemplify the killer, but rather points out to an important fact about evil. It is to the advantage of evil to appear as good as possible. That's why I think the Israeli minister is way out in left field without bringing the heavy artillery of freedom of expression.

[Whaleboy]

Comrade:

[Whaleboy]

Tell me, would you mind a large crucifix, a KKK logo, and a picture of Hitler as Jesus? Why do you hate it? Are you afraid of what other people will think? Or are you afraid of what it makes you, yourself, think?

I would be quite happy to be exposed to those images and would pay attention to them, providing I have the freedom to counter them with my own.

[The Mad Monk]

Originally posted by GePap


So if you consider yourself pro-Israeli, you must automatically approve of the actions of all members of the Israeli government by default?

Which side of the line are you on that you feel strange? That of common sense?

No, just standing next to you.

[Edan]

Originally posted by Whaleboy
Free speech!!!

Hey, I haven't called for censorship of it.

One can agree with free speech and still call it the propogegandic piece of **** that it is. Just like one can support the right of the KKK to march while still thinking that they're a bunch of ****ing bigots.



(I wonuldn't mind if the creators were shamed into removing it, though...)

[Edan]

Originally posted by The Mad Monk


No, just standing next to you.

*giggle*

[Whaleboy]

One can agree with free speech and still call it the propogegandic piece of **** that it is. Just like one can support the right of the KKK to march while still thinking that they're a bunch of ****ing bigots.

Fair play (cue Voltaire). However, I don't even take offence at the art, I see it as highly metaphorical as ironic as to the tragedy of conflict no matter what. Its not a piece for one side or the other. That's ok, most people don't understand art .