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  • Originally posted by Winston
    It's most insensitive to the Israeli people having a piece there depicting the suicide bomber as basically a slightly misguided nice young girl in the middle of a bitter and violent conflict.
    And it depicts no such thing, as we've rehashed her many times. The exhibit calls her the murderer of scores of people. How is an expression of not comprehending how someone who looks so innocent could do such a horrible thing in any way insensitive to Israelis?

    Oh...the artist is Israeli! Haven't we mentioned that before?

    As I said before, there's little mitigation to mass murder, and she should not be portrayed with any mitigating features, such as the likening her to Snow White, with all the associations that entails.
    Oh lord, here we go again. What about this mitigates anything? It calls her a murderer! For the upteenth time:

    "When I saw her picture in the paper, I thought she looked like Snow White, that's why I gave that name to the piece," [the artist] added.

    They only named it Snow White because of the resemblance, and because naming her such stood in ironic contrast to the horrible thing she did (which is fully detailed in the caption for the artwork).

    The rest is just hysteria based on a wilful lack of understanding of the artists' intent. It's stupid.
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    • Defending this exhibit on the premise of freedom of expression is missing the point.

      If another "piece of art" was to show a person desecrating the fictitious grave of recently killed Foreign Minister Anna Lindh, that would be exercising freedom of speech as well, but that would be beside the point for the people who'd be utterly digusted by it.

      So the Swedish government arguing freedom of speech as grounds for keeping the exhibit is really just an attempt to divert attention from the real causes for the Israeli protests.

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      • Boris, give it up. It can't be healthy to run into the same brick wall over and over again...
        Within weeks they'll be re-opening the shipyards
        And notifying the next of kin
        Once again...

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        • You seem to be terribly upset when someone has a different point of view than your own, Hueij. I've often wondered why that is, but it's been four years already so I'll probably never find out.

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          • Originally posted by Winston
            You seem to be terribly upset when someone has a different point of view than your own
            Says the person who advocates destroying artwork he doesn't like.
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            • Originally posted by Boris Godunov


              Oh for ****'s sake, READ THE ARTISTS' WORDS.
              I did.

              You're using the words from the fairy tale, that were NOT used by the authors.
              Uh, yes they were. You did read the acompanying text, did you not?

              from its Israeli, Jewish creator
              It could be a blind transvestite nun from Timbuktu for all I care, it still would have been tasteless.
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              • What we hear here and on on other places is a sad but tru story of violence! This is just another proof of the hatred and violence that still plague many Israelians. You often say that if you come from a violent home where your parents often abused you you not to seldom grow up and becomes a abuser your self..... This is exacty what has happend with the jews after hundreds of years of discrimination and violence against the Jewish people. there is just to much of disspelief and plain hatred in Israeli minds to think straight....

                Zvi Mazel acted just in the same way that Israeli soldiers do in palestine as soon as thay find them self to be even remotely thtreatend.....*shoot firts, think later* mentality.....be it a child or a artwork in stockholm...doesn't matter.....


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                • Originally posted by KrazyHorse
                  quote:
                  Originally posted by Winston
                  Hate caused her to become a mass murderer, blind hate.

                  Portraying an instigator of hate, death and destruction as a lilly white fairytale character is disgusting, and the Israeli ambassador should be given a medal for calling attention to it.


                  You're a complete dork.
                  There is one person here on these boards that stands out above all others in his rudeness and insensitivity. It is not Winston.
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                  • Edan, I applaud your posts in this thread. They are very insightful and informative on the issue of homicide bombers.
                    Last edited by Ned; January 18, 2004, 16:22.
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                    • Originally posted by Ned


                      There is one person here on these boards that stands out above all others in his rudeness and insensitivity. It is not Winston.
                      If Winston was just rude and insensitive I wouldn't care. It's his stupidity that bothers me, same as with you.
                      12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                      Stadtluft Macht Frei
                      Killing it is the new killing it
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                      • My own view is that Israel should simply withdraw its ambassador to Sweden in protest and not replace him with another.

                        The United States should send a strong message to Sweden to protest this one sided display that is ultimately an outrage to humanity.
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                        • Originally posted by Ned
                          My own view is that Israel should simply withdraw its ambassador to Sweden in protest and not replace him with another.
                          Israel needs diplomatic relations with the EU a lot more than the EU needs diplomatic relations with Israel.

                          The United States should send a strong message to Sweden to protest this one sided display that is ultimately an outrage to humanity.


                          Are you honestly a lawyer Ned, or do you just play one on TV?

                          12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                          Stadtluft Macht Frei
                          Killing it is the new killing it
                          Ultima Ratio Regum

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                          • Throw the incompetent nazi ambassador out of Sweden.

                            People I agree with this thread about everything include such great people as: Boris G, Uncle Boris, Osweld, Huej, Combat ingrid, Comrade T, Gepap, Krazyhorse, Agathon...etc all the right minded.

                            Also I have been working in an Art Gallery myself too, sold couple of paintings as well, in case it makes any diffrence. I think that art, however you feel about it should be protected against any physical vandality like this. Art is not here to always please us. Its to provoke feelings,questions, diffrent views. To make us think, not just the aesthetic side but why it was done, what does it try to say, how it was done and possibly how much does it cost?
                            Last edited by laurentius; January 18, 2004, 15:34.
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                            • Originally posted by KrazyHorse
                              If Winston was just rude and insensitive I wouldn't care. It's his stupidity that bothers me, same as with you.
                              Winston, Ned and Giancarlo, the tree stooges of worldwide conservatism.
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                              • Personally, I think she has a greater resemblence to...



                                But, in the end, she was a real life human being who cold bloodedly carried out the real life murder of twenty one innocent people, both Arab and Jew, not a cartoon character, good or bad.
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