Israeli vandalises Swedish suicide bomber art

[Edan]

Originally posted by Buck Birdseed
The title of the artwork is not "Snow White and the Madness of Truth" as the BBC article implies. It's "Snow White and the Madness of the Truth".

Well, that makes all the difference in the world.

[KrazyHorse]

Originally posted by Winston
Hate caused her to become a mass murderer, blind hate.

Portraying an instigator of hate, death and destruction as a lilly white fairytale character is disgusting, and the Israeli ambassador should be given a medal for calling attention to it.

You're a complete dork.

[Edan]

Originally posted by Winston
Hate caused her to become a mass murderer, blind hate.

Portraying an instigator of hate, death and destruction as a lilly white fairytale character is disgusting, and the Israeli ambassador should be given a medal for calling attention to it.

For drawing attention to the "artwork"

For the manner in which he did so

[Combat Ingrid]

Originally posted by Edan
Nobody bothers to read my posts, do they?

I read it

[Agathon]

Originally posted by Edan


Well, that makes all the difference in the world.

It does actually since it implies that the work is not about ordinary boring old truth per se (ie. disquotational or correspondence theories), but the particular truth(s) which fanatics (dubiously) claim to have in their possession.

Presumably the implication is that the artists don't believe in the kind of fanatical religious certainty people appeal to to justify killing others.

[Agathon]

A question: how many people who think the Israeli ambassador was right think the Japanese protesting the recent exhibit of the Enola Gay were wrong?

[Buck Birdseed]

What hate? Based on what? Could you empathise with such hate? Do you actually understand her mindset? Winston, do you ever actually try to think or are you just sprouting crap based on your plentiful prejudices? Wouldn't it be nice for you to try to doubt yourself for once, to reason with your inner self, to fell a bit of angst about the state of the world and of humanity?

I realise you're part of an ideology that systematically choses to ignore the fact that you share the same species with the lowest of the low, whose entire basis is the division between them and us. It's so simple, so naive. Don't you ever feel the need to reachout and emphatise with, quite frankly, scum? Or are you afriad your staunch view on crime and punishment would soften up?

We're all part of the same humanity, and we share much more than we have appart. If we don't try to understand each other, even each other's vilest deeds, what do we have? What's the point of human existence, continually perpetuating conflict and disharmony? Are these not valid questions to ask and to raise?

I'm generally quite a happy person but it makes me melancholic, thinking about both the people who kill others in suicide bombings and those who refuse to try to understand them and others. Maybe it's just the late night, but could you please step out of your ivory tower for one time in your life?

[General Ludd]

Originally posted by Winston
Portraying an instigator of hate, death and destruction as a lilly white fairytale character

... sailing in a pool of blood, is great piece of art.

[Winston]

Snapcase, sorry if it makes you sad, but in my view people who have the capacity to perform suicide bombings have already excluded themselves from humanity.

And I'd be surprised if you truly believe otherwise, even when doubting yourself and reasoning with your inner self ever so much.

[Agathon]

Originally posted by Winston
Snapcase, sorry if it makes you sad, but in my view people who have the capacity to perform suicide bombings have already excluded themselves from humanity.

Really? No mere animal could ever perform such an act. Political violence and planned self immolation are deeply human acts - only we do them and are capable of doing them.

These people aren't clinically insane, they just believe that it is worth sacrificing themselves for the cause.

[Buck Birdseed]

"Exclude themselves from humanity?" And you just leave it at that?

I admire you for being so simple and so stupid, Winston. Your answers are perfect in that they manage to be both entirely devoid of meaning and self-reassuringly facile.

[Bereta_Eder]

Originally posted by Agathon
These people aren't clinically insane, they just believe that it is worth sacrificing themselves for the cause.

Hmmm not even that. Sometimes answers are much more simpler. They do it for survival as they see it. Some even say that the vast majority of people in their shoes would propably do the same.
She was a mother of two and a lawyer. It's worth wondering what can drive such an educated and responsible person to such an act. Speak with an average Palestinian and you see he feels he's locked in a battle of survival against an armed to the teeth and scrupulous "beast". And despite the self delusion that they might go through it's hard to convince them of another reality of the one who ahve actually lived in. At least that's another side of the story.

[Ramo]

Just heard about a rabbi that stood in front of a Palestinian house that was to be bulldozed by the Israeli gov't. He's being prosecuted atm. Awesome guy.

http://www.jta.org/page_view_story.asp?strwebhead=Rabbi+to+court+in+demolition+case&intcategoryid=5

[Dr Strangelove]

Hey, I've got a great idea for a piece of artwork for this collection. Let's calculate the number of Nazis guns, ammunition, planes, tanks and bombs produced during WW2 using Swedish steel and other materials, then extrapolate the number of allied soldiers and civilians killed by them. Then we could design a giant collage depicting the victims of Sweden's "efforts" in WW2. Anyone here think that such a peice of work would go over very well at this conference?

[Hueij]

Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
Hey, I've got a great idea for a piece of artwork for this collection. Let's calculate the number of Nazis guns, ammunition, planes, tanks and bombs produced during WW2 using Swedish steel and other materials, then extrapolate the number of allied soldiers and civilians killed by them. Then we could design a giant collage depicting the victims of Sweden's "efforts" in WW2. Anyone here think that such a peice of work would go over very well at this conference?

Huh?