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  • Originally posted by Dr Strangelove
    Make some demands of the countries which have the biggest trade surplus with the US, specifically force them to accept labor unions. That will level the playing field very quickly.
    We have the biggest trade surplus with the US, and we have trade unions.
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    • Originally posted by Boshko

      Strange. Here I thought I got my Made in the USA New Balance Sneakers at the Skowhegan outlet for $30.
      Shoes made in the sweatshops on Saipan can be labelled "Made in USA".

      Besides, the price example I gave was simply an example.

      Edit:

      A quick google search of "new balance factories" foudn the following points:
      1) Most of New Balance shoes are made in China
      2) Company officials admit that shoes labelled "Made in USA even though 25% of the labour and material is not from the US
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      • Originally posted by rah
        But a lot of that cost savings is being eaten up in improper translation of specs requiring multiple re-dos.
        You mean they don't know English?

        Originally posted by rah
        The high level development is staying on shore now due to many failures off shore.
        Bah, software development projects in the US are just as likely to fail.
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        • Originally posted by KrazyHorse
          We have the biggest trade surplus with the US, and we have trade unions.
          In fact, they have to invent reasons for tarrifs to protect their wussy lumber jacks against lumber from some of the most heavily unionized provinces in Canada.

          I mean, I could see it if the trees came from Alberta, where we burn immigrants to heat the feeding pens for the cannibalistic cows, but come on, BC? We're practically talking Sweden here!
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          • They don/;t understand that if there's more trees in BC than Wasghington them the price for lumber is lower,. Tghat;'s the wholde ****ing point of free trade.
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            • You mean more trees than in the whole USA, I think. It would actually be close. I think.
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              • Yup.

                Plus we have more mad cwns than the whole USA!

                Ca-na-da!

                Can-a-da!
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                • Naw, we've snuck a few over to them.

                  That's Alberta, the caring and sharing province.
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                  • Good Job.

                    Snesky bastards, you Albertans.
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                    • We fire 'em down the pipelines. High mortality rates, but some get through.
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                      • I mean, I could see it if the trees came from Alberta, where we burn immigrants to heat the feeding pens for the cannibalistic cows, but come on, BC? We're practically talking Sweden here!


                        It actually depends on the portion of the province. The Interior can log quite cheaply due to large amounts of readily accessable timber. In fact I think the world's largest mill was just built in Houston, BC.

                        It's the Coastal loggers that get subsidised while the Interior mills run flat out to reduce costs. Now if the Americans would just let us send them wood, more Americans could afford homes.
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                        • This is what happens when you allow special interest groups to run tyour country.

                          I hated Chrétien until his last year in office.

                          Then he started being my personal Godd.
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                          • Originally posted by DanS
                            I don't know how you could say that the Bush tax cuts weren't stimulative to one degree or another.
                            Taxes stimulate productivity. It is a most basic fact.
                            Cutting taxes would lower productivity. That is why it was predominantly the rich who were given the tax cuts, since of the poor were given a larger share they would slacken off. Since the rich only add to productivity by what they are able to spend, if for political reasons Bush needed to give them a tax cut then that won't hurt the economy so bad. At the same time excessive savings are warded off by low interest rates. This means that now land property is the most rewarding to invest in. The following rise in price of land adds further to the productivity of the poor, since now do they not only have to pay a larger relative share of the tax burden but also a larger rent. Of course not evryone is capable of keeping up, which is why the one's who are sacrificed to the prisons, will have to be replaced by immigrants. They will help ensuring that the labour market stays a buyers market. Couple that with the dismantlement of labour unions, police state, and junk culture in order to keep people in line.

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                            • TripleDoc I pray that was a Joke post
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                              • Let me tell y'all about a job interview I had yesterday for what was termed a "Coordinator" position.

                                The guy asked me did I realize what the position was about.
                                I told him that from the position description and title, it seemed to me to be of a logistical nature.
                                He told me it was, at a very low level, and called it clerk work.
                                Said he would be hiring Operational Managers in the near future ( and used the damned dreaded "O" word concerning this position).
                                Yet he showed good grace by continuing to speak with me.

                                Me- I understand.
                                He- You understand?
                                Me- Hmmm. Copy all.
                                He- (laughs) No need for further verification of military service, I don't suppose.
                                What would your friends say about you, were I to bring them in for discussion?
                                Me- Friends? (Because in thinking ahead I was assuming bosses or co-workers)
                                He- (laughs, again) Yes, friends. People you hang around with? You know.
                                NOW, ACS crosses my mind, for SOME ungodly reason
                                Me- Nothing that would get me hired here, I can tell you that much.
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