What should the US do about the job drain?

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Re: Re: What should the US do about the job drain?

Originally posted by Kidicious


1) Shorter work week

2) International minimum wage

Wow those are toughies.

Government is now required to warp the space time fabric to shorten time and is required to make a world tow the line and pay a minimum wage.

We'll see if George can get right on it.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

Moving these costs out of business would reduce the incentive of businesses to move offshore.

Um... wouldn't moving these costs to government increase corporate taxes as well? So I don't see the 'less incentive'.

Umm.... didn't I say that earlier??

[Tingkai]

Originally posted by Ned
My point also is that the more we move social costs onto government, the less incentive businesses have to go offshore to avoid paying those social costs themselves. Today, businesses offer retirement and health to US employees. Both are not true business expenses.

Health insurance is definitely a business expense that benefits businesses.

People without health insurance are more likely to avoid going to a doctor until they are really sick. That results in greater lost work time then people who get treatment for an illness early.

Payments to social security are simply part of the salary. If employers do not pay into social security then employees will want a higher salary to compensate for the lost future earnings.

Businesses are also part of society. They benefit from a prosperous nation where employees are well-educated, crime is relatively low, streets are paved and so on.

Too many employers want a free ride on the system. They want everyone else to pay for the benefits.

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Tingkai
People without health insurance are more likely to avoid going to a doctor until they are really sick. That results in greater lost work time then people who get treatment for an illness early.

Not to mention that in societies without health insurance, people die from colds, fevers and diarrheas.

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

As opposed to those societies with health insurance where people die from colds, fevers, and diarrheas.

[Spiffor]

Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
As opposed to those societies with health insurance where people die from colds, fevers, and diarrheas.

It obviously happens as often in both cases

[Tingkai]

Originally posted by Spiffor

It obviously happens as often in both cases

And it's less likely to happen where people have affordable access to health care.

There's a simple fact that an illness diagnosed early is a lot easy to treat and requires less hospital time.

[Joseph]

Put our CEO in Jail.

[Imran Siddiqui]

No, they need to impose social security-type taxes or increase SS taxes to pay for this kind of social welfare.

I thought you were fiscally conservative ! Increase taxes on working Americans? Especially the poor who will be hit hardest? What are you, insane?!

Umm.... didn't I say that earlier??

This assumes I read what dirty Flyer fans say .

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

And here I thought you just put me on ignore list during the cup playoffs.

[Kidlicious]

Re: Re: Re: What should the US do about the job drain?

Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe


Wow those are toughies.

Government is now required to warp the space time fabric to shorten time

No, they just lower the work week from 40 to something lower, just like they did when they made it 40.

Originally posted by Ogie Oglethorpe
and is required to make a world tow the line and pay a minimum wage.

We'll see if George can get right on it.

It's called trade policy.

[Ned]

Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui

No, they need to impose social security-type taxes or increase SS taxes to pay for this kind of social welfare.

I thought you were fiscally conservative ! Increase taxes on working Americans? Especially the poor who will be hit hardest? What are you, insane?!

Umm.... didn't I say that earlier??

This assumes I read what dirty Flyer fans say .

Imran, I think you got your thinking here backwards.

[JimmyCracksCorn]

Re: What should the US do about the job drain?

Originally posted by Lancer
What is the answer?

I wasn't aware that a significant job drain was going on enough to warrant concern.

The US is a job vacuum though, other countries are concerned with their citizens emigrating to the US.

Edit: Sorry, I was thinking of "brain drain". I'd say the US needs to make its laws even more business friendly if it doesn't want them leaving in droves for other countries. I see business expansions and startings as what creates jobs though, is this not correct?

[Ogie Oglethorpe]

Re: Re: Re: Re: What should the US do about the job drain?

Originally posted by Kidicious

No, they just lower the work week from 40 to something lower, just like they did when they made it 40.

It's called trade policy.

Predicatable and misguided as usual.

[Ned]

Manufacturing jobs have been declining since '79 even while production continues to grow. I understand that the manufacturing portion of our economy is greater than the whole economy of China, which is the second largest economy in the world. All this says is that we are becoming more efficient. It also says that the manufacturing jobs that remain here are probably fairly well paid -- which is what we REALLY want, right?