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  • #61
    Originally posted by PLATO


    Not Hardly. Each missle can leave a footprint 50 miles wide by 200 miles long. With corresponding radioactive damage an Ohio could make China pretty sparsley populated pretty quick.
    "Footprint" is not the same as complete depopulation.
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    • #62
      Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
      Throw me in with all the Canucks clamouring for Canada.

      Also when you are considering the population of India and China. you have to remember the distribution. Population is not dispersed equally across China or India, but clumps in the cities. If you targetted just the cities you could take out a large propoartion of the population of either China or India.

      Oh, and before I forget, I like the sig Cockney.
      I'm clamouring against it, actually.

      9. Isreal
      International influence




      What international influence?
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      • #63
        Originally posted by Joseph
        20 tubes each sub. Each missile carries 10 warheads, 2 ktl each. Used your math. 200 hundred warhead per boat. I will stay with my exaggerated quote.
        2 Kilotons is beans. 200 warhead times 2 kilotons is 400 kilotons.
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        • #64
          Originally posted by KrazyHorse


          Germany and Japan have much larger economies than the UK.

          France (I think) is slightly larger.
          California is number 6 in the world.
          So the USA is no. 1, who is no. 2, 3, 4, and 5.

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          • #65
            Originally posted by KrazyHorse
            France (I think) is slightly larger.
            Not anymore. Since a few years, that's UK #4, and France #5. But both economies are very close to each other.
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            • #66
              Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
              Population is not dispersed equally across China or India, but clumps in the cities. If you targetted just the cities you could take out a large proportion of the population of either China or India.
              I don't know about India, but at least 60% of the population in China are in rural areas.
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              • #67
                I'm clamouring against it, actually.
                Well, it's obvious you're masquerading as a Canadian. You'll need to turn in your toque and stick.
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                • #68
                  Spiffor is correct: People are overrating China in ranking of World Powers. China is strong in East Asia, but has little influence in the rest of the world. There really aren't too many nations capable of truly projecting power on a global scale nowadays. I'd say

                  1) USA
                  2) UK
                  3) France
                  4) Russia
                  5) China
                  6) Japan(Would be alot higher if this country had more political will to excercise power)
                  7) Germany(Military still too land based, becoming basically puppet of France)
                  8) Italy
                  9) Netherlands
                  10) Canada
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                  • #69
                    Originally posted by KrazyHorse


                    I'm clamouring against it, actually.

                    9. Isreal
                    International influence




                    What international influence?


                    You know the one that all the Arabs listen to

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                    • #70
                      Originally posted by Joseph
                      California is number 6 in the world.
                      So the USA is no. 1, who is no. 2, 3, 4, and 5.
                      Huh?

                      a) California is a lot lower than 6. Closer to 10 (its economy is a similar size to that of Canada)
                      b) It doesn't count as #6 because it's not a separate country.

                      The world's largest economies (in order, and guessing)

                      1) USA
                      2) China
                      3) Japan
                      4) India
                      5) Germany
                      6) France
                      7) Russia
                      8) Italy
                      9) Canada (?) Korea (?)
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                      • #71
                        Originally posted by Shi Huangdi
                        Spiffor is correct: People are overrating China in ranking of World Powers. China is strong in East Asia, but has little influence in the rest of the world. There really aren't too many nations capable of truly projecting power on a global scale nowadays. I'd say

                        1) USA
                        2) UK
                        3) France
                        4) Russia
                        5) China
                        6) Japan(Would be alot higher if this country had more political will to excercise power)
                        7) Germany(Military still too land based, becoming basically puppet of France)
                        8) Italy
                        9) Netherlands
                        10) Canada
                        Netherlands? Huh? You mean the one with all the windmills?



                        EDIT: The population of the Netherlands is something like half of Canada's, and their economic output per capita is probably similar or slightly lower. Unless you're claiming they spend twice as much as percentage of their GDP as we do (which would put them at US funding levels, something very few Euro nations are) then they have a smaller military...
                        Last edited by KrazyHorse; January 6, 2004, 01:10.
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                        • #72
                          Originally posted by Spiffor

                          Not anymore. Since a few years, that's UK #4, and France #5. But both economies are very close to each other.
                          According to the CIA World Fantasybook, France's is slightly larger than the UK's, whcih is no indication of reality of course.

                          They have been historically very similar in size, yes.
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                          Killing it is the new killing it
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                          • #73
                            Originally posted by Nuclear Master




                            You know the one that all the Arabs listen to
                            Even if they did, that's still only regional influence...

                            Israel is tiny. It looms large in the ME because all the other actors are pathetic...

                            12-17-10 Mohamed Bouazizi NEVER FORGET
                            Stadtluft Macht Frei
                            Killing it is the new killing it
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                            • #74
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                              Last edited by Ted Striker; August 3, 2020, 22:18.
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                              • #75
                                Originally posted by KrazyHorse
                                1) USA
                                2) China
                                3) Japan
                                4) India
                                5) Germany
                                6) France
                                7) Russia
                                8) Italy
                                9) Canada (?) Korea (?)
                                More precisely, you should see here and here
                                I was wrong on China's GDP, it is almost as high as France's and UK's and already bigger than Italy's. In PPP terms, China is second, with half us GDP.
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