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Originally posted by Mr. Nice Guy
Nice list. But you forgot one dimension: Spiritual protection.
In that case I would put Israel at the top of the list.
Yes but you forgot they kill his Son, and he may be a little upset with them for a while longer. And this time around God did not restore Israel to the Israeli, the UN with a big push from the US returned them to their homeland, after what, 1500 years.
Originally posted by mrmitchell
3. China
More manpower than any other muthafukka on the PLANET
5. India
Almost as much manpower as tha numba one muthafukka
One Ohio class sub coud take care of that pop. problem, with no one left over.
Originally posted by Joseph
Yes but you forgot they kill his Son, and he may be a little upset with them for a while longer. And this time around God did not restore Israel to the Israeli, the UN with a big push from the US returned them to their homeland, after what, 1500 years.
Doesn't Revelations predict that God will intervene on their behalf and destroy an invading army as the end times near?
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Originally posted by C0ckney
it is still a diplomatic minow, and despite its seat on the security council its opinion is considered unimportant in most parts of the world.
As compared to the UK? I still remember the Hong Kong handover talks
China has influence around the Pacific Rim, in Central Asia, in South Asia, and in certain parts of Africa and Latin America. Now, where does UK has diplomatic influence? It doesn't even have a big pull even in the EU.
Certainly the US has the most influence, but we are talking about everybody else here.
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Originally posted by Joseph
One Ohio class sub coud take care of that pop. problem, with no one left over.
Clearly extremely exaggerated.
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China is not to be #2 until they have power projection capabilities. For now, they have a big land military, but that's about it. Besides, China's economy is still extremely weak compared to the population, and France, UK, Germany, japan, and even California still have a comfortable advance on China's whole GDP.
China is overrated for today. It's the big contender as the superpower of the future, but there is still a looooong way to go.
UK, France and Russia as #2, 3 and 4 (in any order). China should be the first of the "golbally important regional powers" that are India, Pakistan and China.
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Not Hardly. Each missle can leave a footprint 50 miles wide by 200 miles long. With corresponding radioactive damage an Ohio could make China pretty sparsley populated pretty quick.
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Originally posted by Spiffor
China is not to be #2 until they have power projection capabilities. For now, they have a big land military, but that's about it. Besides, China's economy is still extremely weak compared to the population, and France, UK, Germany, japan, and even California still have a comfortable advance on China's whole GDP.
China is overrated for today. It's the big contender as the superpower of the future, but there is still a looooong way to go.
UK, France and Russia as #2, 3 and 4 (in any order). China should be the first of the "golbally important regional powers" that are India, Pakistan and China.
I agree. Power projection, except for countries physically touching China, is extremely poor. Logistical infrastructure to support a deployed army is almost non-existent.
Additionally, China is way behind in the technology gap. British and even French units have far more combat experience and the knowledge of battlefield manuveur that comes with it. All NATO countries train in AIRLAND doctrine...China does not. What China brings to the table is huge numbers of people and huge potential. Not yet a top five, but the potential is there.
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Originally posted by Drogue
I reckon it is. Smaller than Japan's, but Japan's in a large decline, has very little growth. The UK economu weathered the world downturn better than any other. We have lower borrowing than Germany, higher interest rates, rates of growth and inflation. Germany's recovering, and has to contend with Euro interest rates, which are probably too high for what it needs. Japan's government is so crippled by debt it can hardly act effectively.
I'd say the UK is a stronger economy.
Germany and Japan have much larger economies than the UK.
Throw me in with all the Canucks clamouring for Canada.
Also when you are considering the population of India and China. you have to remember the distribution. Population is not dispersed equally across China or India, but clumps in the cities. If you targetted just the cities you could take out a large proportion of the population of either China or India.
Oh, and before I forget, I like the sig Cockney.
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