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  • #46


    There is more blasphemy in this thread "than I've heard in my entire life!!!"

    Here is some Bible verses for good wisdom:

    Proverbs 2


    Moral Benefits of Wisdom

    1 My son, if you accept my words
    and store up my commands within you,
    2 turning your ear to wisdom
    and applying your heart to understanding,
    3 and if you call out for insight
    and cry aloud for understanding,
    4 and if you look for it as for silver
    and search for it as for hidden treasure,
    5 then you will understand the fear of the LORD
    and find the knowledge of God.
    6 For the LORD gives wisdom,
    and from his mouth come knowledge and understanding.
    7 He holds victory in store for the upright,
    he is a shield to those whose walk is blameless,
    8 for he guards the course of the just
    and protects the way of his faithful ones.
    9 Then you will understand what is right and just
    and fair-every good path.
    10 For wisdom will enter your heart,
    and knowledge will be pleasant to your soul.
    11 Discretion will protect you,
    and understanding will guard you.

    12 Wisdom will save you from the ways of wicked men,
    from men whose words are perverse,
    13 who leave the straight paths
    to walk in dark ways,
    14 who delight in doing wrong
    and rejoice in the perverseness of evil,
    15 whose paths are crooked
    and who are devious in their ways.

    16 It will save you also from the adulteress,
    from the wayward wife with her seductive words,
    17 who has left the partner of her youth
    and ignored the covenant she made before God. [1]
    18 For her house leads down to death
    and her paths to the spirits of the dead.
    19 None who go to her return
    or attain the paths of life.

    20 Thus you will walk in the ways of good men
    and keep to the paths of the righteous.
    21 For the upright will live in the land,
    and the blameless will remain in it;
    22 but the wicked will be cut off from the land,
    and the unfaithful will be torn from it.


    Footnotes

    1. 2:17 Or covenant of her God

    Quoted from: bible.gospelcom.net
    Luke 1
    17And He (Jesus Christ) will go on before the Lord, in the spirit and power of Elijah, to turn the hearts of the fathers to their children and the disobedient to the wisdom of the righteous--to make ready a people prepared for the Lord."

    Quoted from: bible.gospelcom.net
    WORD TO THOSE WHO WISH TO SEEK THE WISDOM OF GOD:

    If you DO NOT seek the wisdom of God you WILL NOT receive the wisdom of God, and therefore will never see the "light" of Christ.

    But those who think they can truly understand God are deceived. For God could not truly be God if we could understand Him. He is SO MUCH BIGGER than us that we cannot even fathom God. It makes no sense to seek a Godly understanding of God, for it is NOT possible. You cannot accept God into your mind. That is WISHFUL THINKING. Instead, you must accept Christ into your HEART.

    But those who have sought a human understanding of God and have accepted Christ into their hearts CAN see the "light" of Christ.

    For those who wish to seek a human understanding of God there are only four words of wisdom you need to know: READ THE RED LETTERS, for Jesus Himself is God and came to Earth long ago in a human form, lived a human life, endured human sufferings and ultimately paid the price for human sin, yet He still managed to live a perfect human life.

    Only through Jesus Christ Our Lord can we manage to gain the wisdom needed to truly know God, for wisdom itself comes from God and ONLY from God. AMEN.

    P.S. Through the graceful wisdom that comes from God, I have successfully managed to interpret the quoted scripture into a human understanding of the Word (Bible). THANK YOU LORD JESUS FOR ALL THAT HAVE DONE FOR ME! AMEN AGAIN!
    HAVE A DAY.
    <--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
    "And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
    For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

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    • #47
      Here is the lyrics to a Christian Contemporary song that comes to mind:

      "Red Letters" by DC Talk

      Pages filled with a holy message
      Sealed with a kiss from heaven
      On a scroll long ago
      Phrases, words that were bound together
      Now have the power to sever
      Like a sword evermore

      Heed the words divinely spoken
      May your restless heart be broken
      Let the supernatural take hold

      (chorus)
      There is love in the red letters
      There is truth in the red letters
      There is hope for the hopeless
      Peace and forgiveness
      There is life in the red letters
      In the red letters

      One man came to reveal a mystery
      Changing the course of history
      Made the claim he was god
      Ageless, born of a virgin mary
      Spoke with a voice that carried through the years
      It’s persevered

      Heed the words divinely spoken
      May your restless heart be broken
      Let the supernatural take hold

      (repeat chorus)

      (bridge)
      What you say moves me, revelation, come and take me
      The more I look [the more I look] the more I see [the more I see]
      The word of God [the word of god] is what I need

      Oh yeah, oh yeah
      Yeah, it’s the book of love
      Yeah, yeah, yeah
      It’s the book of love

      (repeat chorus)

      Speak to me, breathe in me new life [x2]
      Let him in your heart [x4]
      Also, here is some recommended reading: "The Case for Christ: A Journalist's Personal Investigation of the Evidence for Jesus" and "The Case for Faith: A Journalist Investigates the Toughest Objections to Christianity" Both by Lee Strobel
      HAVE A DAY.
      <--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
      "And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
      For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

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      • #48
        "…now therefore kill every male among the little ones and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves." Numbers 31:17-18

        "Slay both man and woman, infant and suckling." 1 Sam 15:3

        "…neither have ye pity, slay utterly old and young, both maids and little children, and women."Ezek 9:6

        "..there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head. And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the Lord. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them." 2 Kings 2:223-24

        No comment necessary. The Bible speaks for itself.

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        • #49
          Originally posted by gamenaught
          "…now therefore kill every male among the little ones and kill every woman that hath known man by lying with him. But all the women children, that have not known a man by lying with him, keep alive for yourselves." Numbers 31:17-18

          "Slay both man and woman, infant and suckling." 1 Sam 15:3

          "…neither have ye pity, slay utterly old and young, both maids and little children, and women."Ezek 9:6

          "..there came forth little children out of the city, and mocked him, and said unto him, Go up, thou bald head; go up, thou bald head. And he turned back, and looked on them, and cursed them in the name of the Lord. And there came forth two she bears out of the wood, and tare forty and two children of them." 2 Kings 2:223-24

          No comment necessary. The Bible speaks for itself.
          Bah! You heathen! You are blind to the Word because are not a believer! You cannot see through the Word of God. Yet I can plainly see that this scripture is simply trying to make some points.
          HAVE A DAY.
          <--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
          "And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
          For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

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          • #50
            You are blind to the Word because are not a believer!
            I *was* a believer. Tithed and everything.

            But waiting for Sunday school to start, I would pass the time by reading parts of the Bible. That is when I realized it couldn't be true.

            I was you.

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            • #51
              I guess Mr. Nice Guy has not come to OT very often-if he thinks he has seen much blasphemy in this thread..this has been a very mild thread.
              If you don't like reality, change it! me
              "Oh no! I am bested!" Drake
              "it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
              "Patriotism is a pernecious, psychopathic form of idiocy" George Bernard Shaw

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              • #52
                But those who think they can truly understand God are deceived.
                Agnostics and atheists don’t profess to understand God because they have no reason to believe God exists. So the only people that “think they can truly understand God” are all believers. Thus all believers are deceived.

                No argument there.

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                • #53
                  Originally posted by gamenaught


                  I *was* a believer. Tithed and everything.

                  But waiting for Sunday school to start, I would pass the time by reading parts of the Bible. That is when I realized it couldn't be true.

                  I was you.
                  Wisdom cannot come to you if you even if you accept Christ into your heart, but don't truly mean it. I know you didn't truly mean it either because you apparently did not gain any wisdom.

                  Don't think I don't know what you're talking about either. I personally don't care how the world was created and what not, and all the other stuff in the Bible that boggles the human mind. It really doesn't matter what you believe about those things, anyway; what matters is that you accept Christ into your heart and follow His lead, then He will show you the way.
                  Last edited by Mr. Nice Guy; January 1, 2004, 23:32.
                  HAVE A DAY.
                  <--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
                  "And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
                  For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

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                  • #54
                    Originally posted by gamenaught


                    Agnostics and atheists don’t profess to understand God because they have no reason to believe God exists. So the only people that “think they can truly understand God” are all believers. Thus all believers are deceived.

                    No argument there.
                    Like I said, this all comes from wisdom which comes from God. Any atheist or agnostic who truly turns their heart towards Christ will see the truth.

                    So come you heathens! What are afraid of? You've got nothing to lose. Give it a shot!

                    Need Him
                    HAVE A DAY.
                    <--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
                    "And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
                    For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

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                    • #55
                      Originally posted by GePap
                      I guess Mr. Nice Guy has not come to OT very often. . .
                      You're right. I don't come here too often.
                      HAVE A DAY.
                      <--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
                      "And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
                      For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

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                      • #56
                        I’m sure you are well intentioned, Nice Guy. Which probably means you have a good heart.

                        But as time goes on, that good heart will see and experience things that will make you wonder how a loving God could sit idly by while so many suffer so horribly. Then you will have doubts. You’ll pray to God to answer those nagging questions but all you will get will be a dial tone. Those doubts will grow and grow until someday you’ll become a rabid, evangelical unbeliever like me.


                        - or -


                        You could just save yourself the trouble by coming over to the dark side now.


                        Seriously. They got all kinds of cool stuff here. Sex, drugs, and rock n roll. Well, maybe not sex. But lots of porn. And all the Little Debbie cakes you can eat.

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                        • #57
                          Originally posted by gamenaught
                          But as time goes on, that good heart will see and experience things that will make you wonder how a loving God could sit idly by while so many suffer so horribly.
                          The way I see it, we are living in the end times, so this is a given. Satan will seem to have an upper hand from now until Christ's Second Coming, whenever that is.

                          But that is a whole 'nother thread in itself, so let's not go any further down that road.

                          You could just save yourself the trouble by coming over to the dark side now.


                          Seriously. They got all kinds of cool stuff here. Sex, drugs, and rock n roll. Well, maybe not sex. But lots of porn. And all the Little Debbie cakes you can eat.


                          You're joking, right?

                          I don't need ANY of those things to be happy. All I need is God. He he he.
                          HAVE A DAY.
                          <--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
                          "And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
                          For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

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                          • #58
                            Why is "you shall not murder" at 96.43%????? Is somebody trying to tell us something here?
                            "I am sick and tired of people who say that if you debate and you disagree with this administration somehow you're not patriotic. We should stand up and say we are Americans and we have a right to debate and disagree with any administration." - Hillary Clinton, 2003

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                            • #59
                              Originally posted by PLATO
                              Why is "you shall not murder" at 96.43%????? Is somebody trying to tell us something here?
                              I have a very strong gut feeling that this is an inaccuracy:

                              Originally posted by Mr. Nice Guy
                              6. "You shall not murder."
                              Jesus warned "Whoever is angry with his brother without cause, is in danger of judgment," (Matthew 5:22) and the Bible says, "He who hates his brother is a murderer," (1 John 3:15). God sees hatred in the heart to be as wicked as murder. We can violate His Law by attitude and intent.
                              You can bet that there are billions of people all over the world who have felt hatred towards someone in at least the last year.

                              Just goes to show how many haven't bothered to read the first post in this thread (for an elaboration) before voting. I guess they're all too lazy.
                              HAVE A DAY.
                              <--- Quote by Former U.S. President Theodore "Teddy" Roosevelt
                              "And there will be strange events in the skies--signs in the sun, moon, and stars. And down here on earth the nations will be in turmoil, perplexed by the roaring seas and strange tides. The courage of many people will falter because of the fearful fate they see coming upon the earth, because the stability of the very heavens will be broken up. Then everyone will see the Son of Man arrive on the clouds with power and great glory. So when all these things begin to happen, stand straight and look up, for your salvation is near!" --Luke 21:25-28
                              For the Lord himself will come down from heaven with a commanding shout, with the call of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. First, all the Christians who have died will rise from their graves. Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air and remain with him forever. --1 Thessalonians 4:16-17

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                              • #60
                                You're joking, right?
                                I'm dead serious. Swear to Go.. on a stack of Bi..my mother's grave.




                                We got cream pies and Angel Food Cake for the fallen angels. Devil cakes for, well, you know. And for everyone else, lots and lots of cream-filled Little Debbies.

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