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Originally posted by Vince278
Looks like we largely agree. A step forward for international relations.
Looks like we largely agree. A step forward for international relations.
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OK, let us seal an agreement, for today.
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Agreed.Originally posted by The Vagabond
OK, let us seal an agreement, for today.
"And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country. My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man." -- JFK Inaugural, 1961
"Extremism in the defense of liberty is not a vice." -- Barry Goldwater, 1964 GOP Nomination acceptance speech (not George W. Bush 40 years later...)
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You guys also left lots of polluted land behind and did not clean upOriginally posted by The Vagabond
OK, let's say "practically/almost unconditional". You surely realize that the barracks you (and others) built compensated just for a minor fraction of the total losses.
Oh come on, everyone knew what was going on.To a certain extent it is, provided that the release was unconditional and voluntary.
Furthermore, the one who had your balls in the pliers was delusional enough not to realize that your balls were there. On the contrary, this one believed you were an equal member of a big and happy family.
That's one valid pov I expressed. It's not mine, but there is a lot of validity to it.If you want to play it this way, just tell it loudly, openly and frankly. I wonder whether the EU is hipocritical enough to admit you even in such circumstances.Originally posted by Serb:Please, remind me, how exactly and when exactly, Russia bullied its neighbors?
Originally posted by Ted Striker:Go Serb !
Originally posted by Pekka:If it was possible to capture the essentials of Sepultura in a dildo, I'd attach it to a bicycle and ride it up your azzes.Comment
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The bottom line though is that when you f with the Striker Warriors, you get f'ed
Last edited by Ted Striker; January 9, 2004, 08:06.We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham LincolnComment
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SO what are you saying? Striker Warriors are gay?
In da butt.
"Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
"God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.Comment
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hye wait a minute
i should rephrase our ancient battle callWe the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham LincolnComment
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Player are you on speed?Originally posted by Serb:Please, remind me, how exactly and when exactly, Russia bullied its neighbors?
Originally posted by Ted Striker:Go Serb !
Originally posted by Pekka:If it was possible to capture the essentials of Sepultura in a dildo, I'd attach it to a bicycle and ride it up your azzes.Comment
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Vagabond, did you just say earlier that you could have demanded big bucks from the baltic countries? Are you serious? You were occupying them for decades! They should have got reparations from you! Just how bully can russians be?
Que l’Univers n’est qu’un défaut dans la pureté de Non-être.
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Ted Stirker, much better now
In da butt.
"Do not worry if others do not understand you. Instead worry if you do not understand others." - Confucius
THE UNDEFEATED SUPERCITIZEN w:4 t:2 l:1 (DON'T ASK!)
"God is dead" - Nietzsche. "Nietzsche is dead" - God.Comment
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"Death by Government" by Rommel
http://www.fff.org/freedom/1094f.asp
Since it seems people are willing to stretch the upper limit for the generally accepted 6 million death Jewish holocaust figure by 30-40 percent to 8-9 million (not a bad case for this) then we would give the 61,911,000 fgure the same scrutiny. even more so becasue there is far less ability to actually verify and or discover hidden atrocities in this case. So 90 million is a very viable number.
Three are problems with this book though, in that it counts all Nazi civilian war dead as an atrocity (arial bombing and such) while not giving the same distiction for other players, a la Soviets. It also discounts the 200 million that starved in the Chinese Great Leap Forward.
As for you only having 150 million population in WWII, you are of course correct. You problem is that unilke the Nazis who killed from 1933-45, you hade from the 1916-87. But then again, as has been stated, you STILL managed to kill more civionas in the 33-45 period with the Nazis trying their best and bending over backwards to do so, in your case it was just a side effect of you NORMAL POLICY!"The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.Comment
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Sh!t, can't believe some idiots are trying to make the Nazis look like good guys.
Get it straight. The Nazis were a bunch of ****in cowards who went around killing old women and children. They weren't brave. They weren't heros. They were pieces of scum.Golfing since 67Comment
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Nazis or Germans?Originally posted by Tingkai
Get it straight. The Nazis were a bunch of ****in cowards who went around killing old women and children. They weren't brave. They weren't heros. They were pieces of scum.
If Nazis, then all Nazis?
If Michael Wittman wasn't brave I don't know who was.Originally posted by Serb:Please, remind me, how exactly and when exactly, Russia bullied its neighbors?
Originally posted by Ted Striker:Go Serb !
Originally posted by Pekka:If it was possible to capture the essentials of Sepultura in a dildo, I'd attach it to a bicycle and ride it up your azzes.Comment
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Tingkai, nobody here has painted the Nazi's as anything but despicable, we are just stating the fact that the Soviets are worse. This doesn't downgrade the atrocities of the Nazis unless you are unrationally emotional and can only condem one group at a time.
And although we can't fathom why someone would believe in Nazism, if they did in fact believe truly then they can fight for it with distinction, bravery and heroism like any other cause."The DPRK is still in a state of war with the U.S. It's called a black out." - Che explaining why orbital nightime pictures of NK show few lights. Seriously.Comment
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Hm, not that I´m a fan of Serb´s style, but I find it hard to say what´s worse when we speak in dimensions of millions of victims. Also most of the numbers esp. about Stalin´s rule are rather gross estimations, so I´d be careful there.
And the Nazi rule had some unique elements, eg. the holocaust as organized attempt to wipe out an entire people completely is something that not happened anywhere else in this dimension.BlahComment
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Then explain the sad fate of Lukoil.Originally posted by The Vagabond
This has been under way for quite a while. Didn't you know?
Today, you are the waves of the Pacific, pushing ever eastward. You are the sequoias rising from the Sierra Nevada, defiant and enduring.Comment
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