What do you think is the baddest ass piece of military hardware?

[dannubis]

i bet a lot of people in the ME are saying that about the US right now ...

[el freako]

Originally posted by Joseph
I do not trust the UN at all anymore. At one time I did like the UN but not for the last 20 or so years.

Trust has little to do with it.

So are you ready to concede that (using the US census data) your claim that the US had 35m more people than the USSR at the end of the cold war is backwards - meaning that the USSR had 35m more than the US did.

[Vesayen]

Is it wrong if the pictures on these threads have aroused me, physically?

[Tattila the Hun]

Why not trust the UN? Because the US has declared it "irrelevant", if they don't "vote" as US wishes them?

[Serb]

Originally posted by Drake Tungsten

Consider it comes from millions of Russians who lost their lives fighting nazism.

While fighting for a regime that was just as evil as Hitler's...

****ing revisionist.

[Patroklos]

So you deny that the Soviets killed 15 times more people?

Hell, they even managed to kill more innocent (non-combatant deaths) people from 1933-45 than the Nazis did.

You all were the the worse of two evils. The only reason you all can pretend you are imbued with some sort of virtue from WWII is because had to beat one of you at a time. Lucky for the world you ended up fighting each other for awhile (not for your people however). We got you too, though all of the perpetraters of your holocaust got away.

The only revisionist is you, as Russians are the only people who think of themselves as angelic fascist bashers. You acting inoccent is no more dispicable than a modern German claiming the Jewish holocaust never occured, good thing very few are that stupid.

[Patroklos]

Though I will say Nazi philosphy is much more repugnate than Communist, the numbers are so far against you that even that pails in comparison to the gruesome "accomplishments" of the Soviets.

[dannubis]

ahem ...

stopping communism all over the world in the name of freedom killed also quite a few people i would say ...

[Pekka]

Yes, we loved Stalin during those times. It's good that freedom defendors decided to free us from the evil hands of our leaders and bring us communism and in the way kill us all. Thanks

Fortunately that dind't happen.

[Joseph]

Originally posted by Serb

I've my doubts about it. I never heard a single T-80 was sold to Iraq. Can you give me a link about this story? No offence, but during last war in Iraq your media, sometimes was no better than Baghdad's Bob. I mean it reported that Basrah and Um-Quasar (sp?) were captured several times, when in fact they weren't. It reported that Iraqis 15th (iirc) division surrendered, when in fact it didn't. And the same crap.


You didn't answer the question. What is the source of your information?

The Press and TV was reporting it at the time. No picture that I know about.

Good. Iwas trying to joking.

Su-30 isn't a naval version, it's multi-purpose fighter.
Su-33 is naval version (aircarrier based).
Su-34 it's fighter-bomber.
Su-32FN it's a naval modification (to destroy naval targets) of Su-34.
Su-37 it's modification of Su-35 (Super Flanker) multi-purpose fighter.
Su-39 it's something that we Russians call "Shturmovik" (support bomber?)
Su-47 it's fighter of fifth generation with forward-swept wings.

You are right, I look at my book again last night. Here we do it a difference way.

Here SU-27A =Su-27
SU-27B = SU-30
SU-27C = SU-33
SU-27D = SU-34/32
SU-27E = SU-37
SU-27F = SU-39 The all share the same airframe.

The SU-47 would be given a new number as SU-28 or 29 meaning a new plane.

We knew it after few hours.


How? Even if you had an equipment needed to save sailors from submarine:
1) It was in USA, thousands miles away. Preparations would take several days anyway.
2) If you can save trapped sailors from American subs, it doesn't mean you can save sailors from Russian subs, because our subs have different construction.


Yes, I saw it. This movie is the best of everything what Hollywood made about Russians. Sure it was inaccurate and sometimes silly, but I like it anyway.


It's not surprising. I heard now any foreigner should make a finger tip scan when he arrives in USA.

Our DSRV can be anywhere in the world in 24 to 36 hours. Just believe me, we knew where your boat was. Some years ago there was suppose to be talks between your people and ours about making the hatch area the same on your and ours boat's so we could save people in this type of situation.

At our airport all they do is take a picture and a fingerprint, then you go on your way.

[Vince278]

Originally posted by Serb
I just remebered that during Kursk's lifting operation there was a small scandal, because some foreign divers refused to fulfil their contracts because of extremely dangerous conditions.

There's a big difference between a rescue mission and a recovery mission. One might be willing to risk oneself to save a fellow sailor, even a Russian sailor, but it may not be worth risking yourself to try to raise just a wrecked ship.

[Lonestar]

Originally posted by Serb


F*ck you Drake. You're just an as$hole.
Consider it comes from millions of Russians who lost their lives fighting nazism.
F*ck you once again and be you damned, *****.


Ok, Ming I'm ready. How long this time? 7? 14?

Stalinism ain't that much better than Nazism, buddy. Too bad we didn't let Patton do his thang and lead the new drive to Moscow.

[monkspider]

Yeah, and Patton would have gotten his ass-kicked. Don't let your Civ games fool you.

[Joseph]

Originally posted by monkspider
Yeah, and Patton would have gotten his ass-kicked. Don't let your Civ games fool you.

You did not know Patton..

[monkspider]

Originally posted by Joseph
You did not know Patton..

Says who?