What do you think is the baddest ass piece of military hardware?

[Serb]

Originally posted by PLATO


But ours will actually hit the target!!


(Don't really know anything about it, but I couldn't resist the dig!)

In 1986 the “Smerch” MRLS was developed which ensured the hostile targets engagement at the ranges of 20 to 70 km from the firing position.For the first time in the world a rocket projectile equipped with an angular stabilization and range correction system was developed for this type of armament. This ensured more than 2-fold increase in the fire accuracy and precision if compared to the unguided rocket projectile.
The “Smerch” MRLS incorporates some types of the rocket projectiles fitted with cluster fragmentation warhead, blast-fragmentation warhead, sensor-fuzzed submunitions warhead, AT mines warhead, shaped-charge fragmentation submunitions warhead, fuel-air explosive warhead.

So, you're trying to say that your M270 MLRS's unguided rockets are more accurate than ours Smerch's guided rockets?
Yeah, right, and I have a bridge to sell.

[Joseph]

Originally posted by Serb


In 1986 the “Smerch” MRLS was developed which ensured the hostile targets engagement at the ranges of 20 to 70 km from the firing position.For the first time in the world a rocket projectile equipped with an angular stabilization and range correction system was developed for this type of armament. This ensured more than 2-fold increase in the fire accuracy and precision if compared to the unguided rocket projectile.
The “Smerch” MRLS incorporates some types of the rocket projectiles fitted with cluster fragmentation warhead, blast-fragmentation warhead, sensor-fuzzed submunitions warhead, AT mines warhead, shaped-charge fragmentation submunitions warhead, fuel-air explosive warhead.

So, you're trying to say that your M270 MLRS's unguided rockets are more accurate than ours Smerch's guided rockets?
Yeah, right, and I have a bridge to sell.

You may have bridges but we have the Golden Gate.

[Vince278]

Originally posted by Joseph
Yes the F-111 and the F-4 are today still top aircraft.

One of my favorite memories of an F4 is how loud they were, especially when flying 50 feet over my tent. I think I hit it with a rock on the following pass.

[Vince278]

Originally posted by Serb
So, you're trying to say that your M270 MLRS's unguided rockets are more accurate than ours Smerch's guided rockets?
Yeah, right, and I have a bridge to sell.

You would think that with all of that great crap Russia would have taken over the world by now.

Its not what you got but what you do with it.

[Serb]

Originally posted by Vince278


You would think that with all of that great, superior, unmatched equipment Russia would have taken over the world by now.

Don't worry, we will.


p.s. there was a little mistake in your post. I've edit it.

[Serb]

Originally posted by Joseph
Remember the Marine's at Kuwait Airport with our old M60A3s. They kill a small number of T80s

I've my doubts about it. I never heard a single T-80 was sold to Iraq. Can you give me a link about this story? No offence, but during last war in Iraq your media, sometimes was no better than Baghdad's Bob. I mean it reported that Basrah and Um-Quasar (sp?) were captured several times, when in fact they weren't. It reported that Iraqis 15th (iirc) division surrendered, when in fact it didn't. And the same crap.

Information here is a lot easier to come by than in the old Soviet Republic of Russia

You didn't answer the question. What is the source of your information?

No, it was a new airplane. I laugh when I read that.

Good. Iwas trying to joking.

SU-27 A new plane. SU-30 the Naval version, SU-34/32 a strike version and they are coming out with the SU-37 version.

Su-30 isn't a naval version, it's multi-purpose fighter.
Su-33 is naval version (aircarrier based).
Su-34 it's fighter-bomber.
Su-32FN it's a naval modification (to destroy naval targets) of Su-34.
Su-37 it's modification of Su-35 (Super Flanker) multi-purpose fighter.
Su-39 it's something that we Russians call "Shturmovik" (support bomber?)
Su-47 it's fighter of fifth generation with forward-swept wings.

Question: When the Kurks went down, how long was it before the Russian people knew about it. Here, we knew about it on the second day or third day after it when down.

We knew it after few hours.

When I worked at my old job, I knew about almost all Soviet Subs after they sank. Serb, it pisses me off that your navy did not let us help. We would have found it a lot faster and just maybe, we could have save one or more of those sailors. Some of those guys may have lived at lease 3 to 4 days after sinking. The old Soviet Navy mentality came into play, and that is because they lost a boat, they should died for mother Russian and that is bullsh!t. Here we would have done everything possible to save them.

How? Even if you had an equipment needed to save sailors from submarine:
1) It was in USA, thousands miles away. Preparations would take several days anyway.
2) If you can save trapped sailors from American subs, it doesn't mean you can save sailors from Russian subs, because our subs have different construction.

Have you seen K-19 movie? The movie is very real and it did happen.

Yes, I saw it. This movie is the best of everything what Hollywood made about Russians. Sure it was inaccurate and sometimes silly, but I like it anyway.

Serb, here before 9/11 if there was an airshow at Travis AFB, I could take you and no one would ask you any question about you. No ID was required. Since 9/11 Travis has not had an airshow. However some bases are having airshows. We are very open here, and that is why OBL could strike here and get away with it. Now airports are getting tighter on security and checking people getting on planes to fly anywhere.

It's not surprising. I heard now any foreigner should make a finger tip scan when he arrives in USA.

[Vince278]

Originally posted by Serb

Don't worry, we will.


p.s. there was a little mistake in your post. I've edit it.

[Vince278]

Originally posted by Serb
How? Even if you had an equipment needed to save sailors from submarine:
1) It was in USA, thousands miles away. Preparations would take several days anyway.
2) If you can save trapped sailors from American subs, it doesn't mean you can save sailors from Russian subs, because our subs have different construction.

The Russians always seemed to have a disturbing lack of concern for human life, even with their own people. If there was even a remote chance to save one sailor they should have gone for it, nationalism be damned.

[Saras]

There were iirc norwegian rescue teams ready to go in immediately, but nooo, Norway is NATO, nyet nyet nyet.

[Vince278]

The Russians seemed to lack the capability to do it themselves. So much for "all of that great, superior, unmatched equipment". I'm sure the sailors on the Kursk would have appreciated anybody's help (probably knowing how much would be coming from the motherland).

[Mordoch]

The Python 4 Missile.


Its an IR guided short ranged air to air missile as nasty as it looks!

Israel's Rafael is now producing the Python 5, an even more advanced missile. Its exterior will be virtually identical to the Python 4, and I couldn't find as good a picture of it, so I decided to stick with showing the Python 4.

[Vince278]

It sure does look nasty! I think I already mentioned earlier my sister helps produce the AMRAAM.

[Serb]

Originally posted by MrBaggins
Of course, Russia won't be in any position, any time soon to be spending 10 billion on an improved sub platform.

Wrong.
First Severodvinsk-class multipurpose nuclear-powered submarine of the new (fourth) generation was commisioned last year. It's at least as stealthy as Seawolf (more probably more stealthy).
During last year also was commisioned SSBN "Yuri Dolgoruky" - the first sub of Borey class (btw, first sub of 5th generation in the world).

"According to experts, a cruiser of the Borey family lag somewhat behind Russian nuclear-powered submarines of the preceding generation of the Typhoon class (btw, the largest subs in the world), but surpass them considerably in the power of its missile armaments. Regarding its combat capabilities, the Yuri Dolgoruky surpasses existing vessels of its class twice or thrice over, and even some promising submarines, because of its low noise level and other parameters that make it difficult to detect in the waters of the world's oceans, even from space. Strategic missile-carrying nuclear-powered submarines of the Borey family will be the mainstay of the Russian navy in the 21st century together with the multipurpose strike nuclear-powered submarines of the newest series, the main vessel of which is the Gepard nuclear-powered submarine that joined the navy in December of 2001. "

[Serb]

Originally posted by Cruddy


LIES!!!

http://www.geocities.com/CapeCanaveral/6290/testbed.htm

WHAT LIES?
I've said our first VTOF was created almost 20 years before Harrier. Is it not true?

First flight 1953, admittedly teathered. The question here is not who had the first operational aircraft - the question is WHO CAME UP WITH THE FIRST DESIGN AND WHO COPIED IT????

IF WE COPIED YOUR DESIGN, THEN HOW DO YOU EXPLAIN THAT WE CREATED FIRST OPERATIONAL VTOF AND PUT IT IN MASS-PRODUCTION MUCH EARLIER THAN YOU DID?

Just look at this photo. What so similar between it and your Harrier? Do you still insit we stole your design?

[Serb]

And this is Harrier:

Damn Russkies.
It's obvious they stole this design from Brits.