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  • #376
    Originally posted by Joseph
    Joe baby, at lease 30 million or more, we just don't really know.
    This is the point: you don't really know. Then why do mention so wild numbers? What I read recently in Russian sources specifies the following number: 4 million.

    I don't intend to justify Stalin, a murderous maniac. But I am strongly against a wild exaggeration of the number of victims which is a common practice in the West.
    Freedom is just unawareness of being manipulated.

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    • #377
      Originally posted by The Vagabond


      This is the point: you don't really know. Then why do mention so wild numbers? What I read recently in Russian sources specifies the following number: 4 million.

      I don't intend to justify Stalin, a murderous maniac. But I am strongly against a wild exaggeration of the number of victims which is a common practice in the West.
      You really need to see his story on the History Channel.

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      • #378
        Originally posted by Joseph
        Joe baby, at lease 30 million or more, we just don't really know.
        The population of the Soviet Union was about 150 million back then. Those killed by Stalin were mostly middle-aged men (not too young, nor too old). If your figure is true, this roughly means that one of each two middle-aged men was killed. This is nonsense.
        Freedom is just unawareness of being manipulated.

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        • #379
          There was once a powerful tribe in Russia known as the Striker Warriors

          feared throughout the land, riding into battle with sword sheath on one side and penis sheath on the other

          even stalin feared their power for their length was a fearsome weapon unstoppable by even the cossaks

          In the height of his purges, stalin rounded up the the Striker Warriors in one final showdown at the port of Odessa. The NKDV lost hundreds of men and thousands of lamp posts were knocked over. Stalin himself was even poked in the eyeball.

          So next time you take a shower and are not feeling like a man, pray for the strength and length of the STRIKER WARRIORS!!!

          I MY FRIENDS AM THE LAST OF THE STRIKER WARRIORS!!!
          We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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          • #380
            Originally posted by The Vagabond
            I don't believe we can. Do you know the numbers?
            Of course, but you won't believe them and you'll endlessly argue over the sources. Speak with your neighbors in the former Soviet Union and they'll tell you (the Ukrainians, Chechens, Tatars, Uzbekis, non-bolsheviks, etc., etc., ad nauseum). Open your mind, I dare you.
            "And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country. My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man." -- JFK Inaugural, 1961
            "Extremism in the defense of liberty is not a vice." -- Barry Goldwater, 1964 GOP Nomination acceptance speech (not George W. Bush 40 years later...)
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            • #381
              Originally posted by Vince278


              Of course, but you won't believe them and you'll endlessly argue over the sources. Speak with your neighbors in the former Soviet Union and they'll tell you (the Ukrainians, Chechens, Tatars, Uzbekis, non-bolsheviks, Striker Warriors, etc., etc., ad nauseum). Open your mind, I dare you.
              We the people are the rightful masters of both Congress and the courts, not to overthrow the Constitution but to overthrow the men who pervert the Constitution. - Abraham Lincoln

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              • #382
                Originally posted by Joseph
                You really need to see his story on the History Channel.
                The Russians have that channel? I would think that a country that has a case of collective amnesia over the shame of the past century wouldn't even have a History Channel.
                "And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country. My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man." -- JFK Inaugural, 1961
                "Extremism in the defense of liberty is not a vice." -- Barry Goldwater, 1964 GOP Nomination acceptance speech (not George W. Bush 40 years later...)
                2004 Presidential Candidate
                2008 Presidential Candidate (for what its worth)

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                • #383
                  Originally posted by Joseph
                  You really need to see his story on the History Channel.
                  Why should I believe the History Channel? The History Channel just stupidly repeats the numbers that are considered common knowledge in the West. These numbers were first mentioned in the 1950s, and it was not a result of a serious study, but rather of a wild and irresponsible guess. And this has been repeated over and over since then. Apparently the West was happy to cling to it, as it was a good propagandistic tool during the Cold War.
                  Freedom is just unawareness of being manipulated.

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                  • #384
                    Originally posted by Ted Striker
                    even stalin feared their power for their length was a fearsome weapon unstoppable by even the cossaks

                    Stalin himself was even poked in the eyeball.
                    You're talking about what is in the sword sheath, right?
                    "And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country. My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man." -- JFK Inaugural, 1961
                    "Extremism in the defense of liberty is not a vice." -- Barry Goldwater, 1964 GOP Nomination acceptance speech (not George W. Bush 40 years later...)
                    2004 Presidential Candidate
                    2008 Presidential Candidate (for what its worth)

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                    • #385
                      Originally posted by Vince278


                      Of course, but you won't believe them and you'll endlessly argue over the sources. Speak with your neighbors in the former Soviet Union and they'll tell you (the Ukrainians, Chechens, Tatars, Uzbekis, non-bolsheviks, etc., etc., ad nauseum). Open your mind, I dare you.
                      Why don't you mention Russians in this list. Do you think that they suffered any less from the repressions?

                      Well, the Chechens suffered more, of course, since they were collectively deported from their land.
                      Freedom is just unawareness of being manipulated.

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                      • #386
                        a country that has a case of collective amnesia over the shame of the past century
                        Does disagreeing with your wild numbers amount to collective amnesia?
                        Freedom is just unawareness of being manipulated.

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                        • #387
                          Originally posted by The Vagabond
                          Why don't you mention Russians in this list. Do you think that they suffered any less from the repressions?
                          I had Russians in mind when I said non-bolsheviks (those who did not support the revolution). Of course many bolshevik Russians suffered as well due to Stalin's rampant paranoia. History may have taken a different course if Trotsky was in charge instead of Stalin.
                          "And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country. My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man." -- JFK Inaugural, 1961
                          "Extremism in the defense of liberty is not a vice." -- Barry Goldwater, 1964 GOP Nomination acceptance speech (not George W. Bush 40 years later...)
                          2004 Presidential Candidate
                          2008 Presidential Candidate (for what its worth)

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                          • #388
                            Originally posted by The Vagabond
                            Does disagreeing with your wild numbers amount to collective amnesia?
                            Not at all, both sides are probably off on the numbers. The collective amnesia kicks in when people start to deny most of what the bolsheviks/communists were responsible for since the revolution. Even a short list of their crimes would be horrific. I hope that at least some people would feel a little shame. That would be the human thing to do.
                            "And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country. My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man." -- JFK Inaugural, 1961
                            "Extremism in the defense of liberty is not a vice." -- Barry Goldwater, 1964 GOP Nomination acceptance speech (not George W. Bush 40 years later...)
                            2004 Presidential Candidate
                            2008 Presidential Candidate (for what its worth)

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                            • #389
                              Originally posted by Vince278

                              History may have taken a different course if Trotsky was in charge instead of Stalin.
                              Hows that?

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                              • #390
                                Originally posted by Saras
                                Hows that?

                                http://www.althist.com/stalin.htm
                                Interesting reading but highly speculative and just plain wrong on many counts. (Hitler, left alone, would only kill 2 million Jews?). Trotsky was no saint but he also wasn't the sinner Stalin was. Trotsky left because he was losing a power struggle with Stalin. My "what if" scenario would have started with Trotsky winning the power struggle. Trotsky was an intellectual, Stalin was a brute. Trotsky's beliefs were more in line with Lenin, only a little more moderate. ( Wait a minute, am I defending a bolshevik?!? )

                                Perhaps our Russian friends can tell us a little bit about Trotsky, I could be wrong on some counts.
                                "And so, my fellow Americans: ask not what your country can do for you—ask what you can do for your country. My fellow citizens of the world: ask not what America will do for you, but what together we can do for the freedom of man." -- JFK Inaugural, 1961
                                "Extremism in the defense of liberty is not a vice." -- Barry Goldwater, 1964 GOP Nomination acceptance speech (not George W. Bush 40 years later...)
                                2004 Presidential Candidate
                                2008 Presidential Candidate (for what its worth)

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