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I was under the impression that Santa Claus originated with Saint Nicholas, a christian religious leader. Also, some Christians believe Jesus was born on April 6.
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Look, I'm aware of the pagan history behind Christian holidays -- but that is going out into another dimension that has NOTHING to do with my BASIC question.
That some morons have claimed that Jesus Christ was not born at all -- that he never existed as a person.A lot of Republicans are not racist, but a lot of racists are Republican.Comment
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Non-Christians technically are being discriminated against because the schools have Christmas vacation. That doesn't mean they're actually persecuting non-Christians.Persecution is characterized by discrimination. In this case, the christians are being discriminated against.
The connotation of the word "persecution" goes a bit past totally irrelevent acts that don't in the least hurt anyone."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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I defy you to find ten of them that would turn it down.Originally posted by Ramo
Non-Christians technically are being discriminated against because the schools have Christmas vacation.
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'Course most Moslem students would probably rather have Ramadan-vacation.
"Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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That arguement has a double-edged blade.The connotation of the word "persecution" goes a bit past totally irrelevent acts that don't in the least hurt anyone.
Why should we stop the Christians from putting up Nativity scenes when they don't hurt anyone at all?Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
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I wouldn't mind it either.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator RubioComment
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I already said what the schools did was not right. It just ain't "persecution.""Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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Heathen! Torquemada (who runs the US school system) is gonna go down on your arse.I wouldn't mind it either."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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Sorry. That's not my scene.Originally posted by Ramo
Torquemada ... is gonna go down on your arse.I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator RubioComment
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Not an altar-boy, eh?"Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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So until you start flogging Christians, it does not count as persecution?It just ain't "persecution."
What definition do you use Ramo?Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
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Is having Christmas-break instead of Ramadan-break persecuting Moslems?"Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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Ben -Ben, you're not reading my posts, I've said twice now (this is the third time) that I don't know if the nativity scene is ahistorical or accurate. I wasn't there, got that?Berz:
You either have authority or you don't. Makes no sense to claim you have no authority, and then to go and tell me how it is.
Mr Fun -Hey super genius, where did I say there was harm in Christians picking a date of their choosing? Take a chill pill. The fact remains, Christmas was most likely NOT the birthdate of Jesus but based on paganism observances.Hey super genius -- I was not talking about the DATE that Jesus Christ was born. But if we Christians have chosen a date based on traditons and custom, there is no harm with that.
The date and the reasons for that date are part of a "historical" event. If I said Pearl Harbor was bombed by the Japanese on July 15, 1963 because the US was getting involved in Vietnam, pointing out I was wrong doesn't warrant insults.how can people claim that Jesus was never born at all -- it WAS an actual historic event, regardless of WHEN it happened.Comment
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Mr Fun -Can you prove he existed? If you accept the paganism behind Christmas, how do you respond to the paganism behind virgin births, the dying and resurrected god, the 3 days between the death and resurrection and the Christmas observance falling 3 days after the sun standstill, the ascension to heaven, and the idea of the man/god, etc...?Look, I'm aware of the pagan history behind Christian holidays -- but that is going out into another dimension that has NOTHING to do with my BASIC question.
That some morons have claimed that Jesus Christ was not born at all -- that he never existed as a person.Comment
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