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  • Every single person who opposed the Iraq war will be voting in the next election.
    This is funny. You actually believe this?
    I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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    • Originally posted by DanS
      This is funny. You actually believe this?
      A vast majority, yes. Do you actually think I am wrong?

      Face to face conversation with dozens of people. Bushies are quite oblivious to how deeply his actions have angered these people. If millions were willing to spend an entire day protesting, tens of millions will be willing to spend the few minutes to vote.
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      • Originally posted by DanS
        I've got an idea about why there is a discrepancy. Perhaps the Dutch TV confused Bush's poll numbers for Schroeder's?

        I doubt it, maybe Balkenende's....

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        • Do you actually think I am wrong?
          Of course you're wrong.
          I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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          • It's okay, the bastard will get justice when he gets to the UK on the 19th. We're going to to flashmob him and moon him.

            Either that or do a Gavro if one can get close enough. Two bullets, that's all it'll take.

            I wonder if I'd get the chance to chuck high-explosive eggs at him
            Res ipsa loquitur

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            • Originally posted by DanS
              Of course you're wrong.
              Well, we will see, won't we. I see no reason to argue about the future, but.....











              When I get the chance I'll be sure and let you know.... I TOLD YOU SO!
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              • Originally posted by Evil Knevil
                It's okay, the bastard will get justice when he gets to the UK on the 19th. We're going to to flashmob him and moon him.

                Either that or do a Gavro if one can get close enough. Two bullets, that's all it'll take.

                I wonder if I'd get the chance to chuck high-explosive eggs at him
                You cannot possibly think this is amuzing. I hope you don't mind if I forward this post on to the proper authorities?
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                • Originally posted by Ned
                  However, the people who hate Republicans are heavily into class warfare in the United States. I assume that this must be true outside the US as well. It just seems that those who believe in class warfarism (the "social-justice" crowd) are in the majority in Europe.
                  "Class warfare" in the current US context is simply a propaganda label to apply to anyone or anything that challenges the current policies and systems which reward those who are already privileged and create barriers for those who aren't.

                  Oppose tax cuts that benefit the rich, when their total tax burdens are generally less (or structurable so they could be less, but that's not always the goal) than the middle class and working class? Then you're into class warfare, because you don't automatically accept that your betters deserve it more than you.
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                  • Originally posted by NeOmega


                    A vast majority, yes. Do you actually think I am wrong?

                    Face to face conversation with dozens of people. Bushies are quite oblivious to how deeply his actions have angered these people. If millions were willing to spend an entire day protesting, tens of millions will be willing to spend the few minutes to vote.
                    What "millions" "spending and entire day protesting?"

                    They got realllllllllllllllllll good ganja where you come from, mon.
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                    • Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat


                      "Class warfare" in the current US context is simply a propaganda label to apply to anyone or anything that challenges the current policies and systems which reward those who are already privileged and create barriers for those who aren't.

                      Oppose tax cuts that benefit the rich, when their total tax burdens are generally less (or structurable so they could be less, but that's not always the goal) than the middle class and working class? Then you're into class warfare, because you don't automatically accept that your betters deserve it more than you.
                      See.
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                      • Originally posted by MichaeltheGreat


                        What "millions" "spending and entire day protesting?"

                        They got realllllllllllllllllll good ganja where you come from, mon.
                        Before the war, in one day, millions of people protested across the world.

                        200-300,000 in New York, 100,000 in Chicago, 30,000 in Seattle, these are the only rough figures I remmeber from the day, but since the protests were all over America, I know there were more than 1 million .
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                        • Good for you. You must realize that Louis Farrakhan can also turn out that many people. Haven't seen him have much of an electoral impact.
                          I came upon a barroom full of bad Salon pictures in which men with hats on the backs of their heads were wolfing food from a counter. It was the institution of the "free lunch" I had struck. You paid for a drink and got as much as you wanted to eat. For something less than a rupee a day a man can feed himself sumptuously in San Francisco, even though he be a bankrupt. Remember this if ever you are stranded in these parts. ~ Rudyard Kipling, 1891

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                          • NeOmega:

                            You want to bet against Bush in this next election? I'll call that bet. Name your terms.
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                            • Bush is a terrible president.

                              He has completely destroyed our reputation in the international community, and many more people have been recruited as terrorists around the world because of his actions.

                              Bush invaded Afghanistan, has weakened their economy and in everywhere except Kabul the country is torn apart by violence. Warlords rule the country and they are unchallenged by the US.

                              He went into Iraq. Now the Iraqis have no security, infrastructure, and power and running water took months to get working. Thousands of lives have been lost, and are troops are now in a bad position. They are in a land where they are being attacked almost daily and the people do not want them there. A perfect situation for terrorists. So many more lives will be lost, and Iraq will become another brutal dictatorship (of course it will be on that supports the US).

                              Bush has also put the country into the biggest national deficit the country has ever seen. It could destroy our economy. And to 'fix it,' he cut taxes to make it way worse. I just don't understand my opponents' point of view on this situation. Since when is it good to be in major debt?

                              Bush has also turned the country into a country filled with nationalistic, zealous fanatics that believe the country can do no wrong and that Bush is on a quest to spread liberty throughout the world.

                              Bush has done absolutley nothing for the environment.

                              Bush is also spreading the message that international law and the rest of the world's opinion does not matter. Not to mention his policies encourage nuclear proliferation.

                              The hatred of socialist and communists is well deserved because they hate freedom.
                              Please, stop posting BS here. You are wasting everyone's time by making such idiotic statements. It is obvious that you live in the US, because you have been brainwashed to hate an entire ideology without understanding it to the point where you make rash generalizations that are so blatantly false it is almost funny. And you hate everyone who believes in that ideology. Such closed-mindness and blind hatred is dangerous. There are millions of people in the world you hate and you don't even know them.
                              "The first man who, having fenced off a plot of land, thought of saying, 'This is mine' and found people simple enough to believe him was the real founder of civil society. How many crimes, wars, murders, how many miseries and horrors might the human race had been spared by the one who, upon pulling up the stakes or filling in the ditch, had shouted to his fellow men: 'Beware of listening to this imposter; you are lost if you forget the fruits of the earth belong to all and that the earth belongs to no one." - Jean-Jacques Rousseau

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                              • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
                                NeOmega:

                                You want to bet against Bush in this next election? I'll call that bet. Name your terms.
                                I didn't say a democrat would win, I said the anti-war people will turn out in force for the election.

                                We'll get back to that when we see who is running. Perhaps I was a bit hasty in my statement:

                                If DEAN runs, a vast majority of those who oppose the war will turn out. If it is Kerry or Gephardt or Lieberman, Bush wins hands down, the anti-war people will still turn out, but not as heartily.

                                However, after the primary decides who is running.....

                                My location will say Ben Kenobis B**** for 3 months if Bush wins, or yours will say NeOmega's B****. However, we can negotiate real terms, or even if the bet is to go through, after the primary.
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