bush's approval rating

[Ned]

Originally posted by Berzerker


Reagan was a patriot? We must have different definitions of patriotism...

Apparently.

Reagan was pro-America and anti-communist.

What is your definition?

[Ned]

Originally posted by St Leo


Lincoln and Theodore Roosevelt are not reviled today.

Name one Democrat president who has ever been popular with the left.

I assume you meant "right." I give you Thomas Jefferson, James Polk, FDR and JFK.

I personally also like Clinton if you can divorce his philandering and lying from what he did.

[DanS]

These are really funny polls. In the US, using representative samples, Bush has a 55% approval rating. Among young adults, Bush has a 66% approval rating.

This site sure has funky demographics.

[Saint Marcus]

These are really funny polls. In the US, using representative samples, Bush has a 55% approval rating. Among young adults, Bush has a 66% approval rating.

This site sure has funky demographics.

well DUH

those polls are held under Americans, while this one has non-Americans voting as well.

Saint Marcus, I agree that socialists are less extreme Marxists than communists. But they still are against freedom to the extent they are against free enterprise. Now, a person who believes in a social safety-net while supporting free enterprise - well, in the US, that is the very definition of a Republican. So those outside the US who hate Republicans cannot be interested in pro-business capitalism with a social safety net. They must be interested in socialism.

What about other leftists? Social Democrats for one. As I recall, your biggest ally in the War in Iraq is a Social Democrat! He's not that left wing, but still a Social Democrat.

And pro-business capitalism? See how good it's working. **cough**Enron**cough**

And what do you think of other rightwingers? Not every rightwinger is a republican.

[Saint Marcus]

In the US, using representative samples, Bush has a 55% approval rating. Among young adults, Bush has a 66% approval rating.

I just watch the Dutch news...they reported a 38% approval rating for Bush, in the US. :hmm:

[Ned]

Originally posted by Saint Marcus


well DUH

those polls are held under Americans, while this one has non-Americans voting as well.



What about other leftists? Social Democrats for one. As I recall, your biggest ally in the War in Iraq is a Social Democrat! He's not that left wing, but still a Social Democrat.

And pro-business capitalism? See how good it's working. **cough**Enron**cough**

And what do you think of other rightwingers? Not every rightwinger is a republican.

You talking about Blair? Well, Blair is fairly conservative on most issues, is he not?

However, the people who hate Republicans are heavily into class warfare in the United States. I assume that this must be true outside the US as well. It just seems that those who believe in class warfarism (the "social-justice" crowd) are in the majority in Europe.

[Saint Marcus]

You talking about Blair? Well, Blair is fairly conservative on most issues, is he not?

yes, for a leftist. But he's as right-wing as Bill Clinton was!

I assume that this must be true outside the US as well.

Not really. Republicans are disliked among non-socialists/greens as well. For different reasons, of course.

It just seems that those who believe in class warfarism (the "social-justice" crowd) are in the majority in Europe.

in France, right wingers were voted in power. Ditto for Holland, Italy, Spain, etc. The people who voted for them are FAR from being into class warfare. Yet, most of them STILL dislike Republicans. Or at least, the current administration.

So please stop your two dimensional "if you hate Republicans you must be an extremist lefty" argumentation. It just doesn't hold ground in the rest of the world, where rightwingers join moderates and leftwingers in their oposition of the Dubya administration.

[DanS]

I just watch the Dutch news...they reported a 38% approval rating for Bush, in the US.

They must be dumb ****s. Or maybe they were saying that 38% is the disapproval rating?

[Zealot]

No, but YOU must be! I keep getting more and more surprised by the amount of censorship there must be in USA's media! I mean, how much of your 8 o'clock news cover international news, or even nation wide news? It's all local junk news!

European broadcasts are a LOT more complete, with very high levels of accuracy and political independence.
If you want to trust me on this one, do so. If you don't, have a happy life in fairyland!

[DanS]

Zealot: I can only go by SM tells us. If the reporters say that Bush's approval rating is at 38%, then they're dumb ****s or big fat liars.

[muxec]

I voted yes...

[Q Classic]

So those outside the US who hate Republicans cannot be interested in pro-business capitalism with a social safety net. They must be interested in socialism.

...? so if they're not with you, they're against you?

[Zealot]

Originally posted by muxec
I voted yes...

There's no such answer; only "Aye", "Nay", and "Banana"!


DanS, I'm sorry, but I really can't understand your point.
SM said that Bush's approval rate is only 38%. So? He didn't say 62% are against him! There are always absentees in these kind of polls!!!

I don't remember the last time I heard a poll about Bush's popularity in the US broadcasted here in Portugal, but I do remember it was already below 50%.

[rah]

Originally posted by Zealot
No, but YOU must be! I keep getting more and more surprised by the amount of censorship there must be in USA's media! I mean, how much of your 8 o'clock news cover international news, or even nation wide news? It's all local junk news!

European broadcasts are a LOT more complete, with very high levels of accuracy and political independence.
If you want to trust me on this one, do so. If you don't, have a happy life in fairyland!

We have no 8 o'clock news. hmmmmmmm
You must be confused. We have two distinct types of news shows on the broadcast networks. This does not include the cable news channels like CNN CNBC etc.

One is the local news that is produced locally. It may cover briefly national or international stories, but that's not it's purpose.

Then there is the network news that covers mostly national and international stories with an occasional local story if it's big enough. CBS ABC and NBC. Much more credible than Euros give them credit for.

So it depends on which news broadcasts you're talking about. Get your facts straight before you make biased statements like that.

[DanS]

SM said that Bush's approval rate is only 38%. So?

Well, it just isn't true. Not even close.

I don't remember the last time I heard a poll about Bush's popularity in the US broadcasted here in Portugal, but I do remember it was already below 50%.

It has never been below 50% in his presidency. Where do you guys come up with these bull**** numbers?