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Not just Mongolian, but Asiatic Siberian troops largely. That was mostly because they weren't in the west in '41 and '42 to get killed and captured like so many of the western Russian troops.Originally posted by chegitz guevara
In a book I read about 20-30 years ago about the Dresden bombing, it said that the Soviets were using Mongolian troops in the invasion of Germany, precisely for the purpose of looting and raping. Desdens was full of refugees fleeing these Mongolian troops when it was hit.
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dirty mongoloids.B♭3Comment
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3 days? More like 3 months.
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As I understand it, all allied troops looted as they went through Germany and Austria, not just the Russians. It is said that the populace didn't mind the Americans so much because they only stole the valuable stuff!
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The soviets raped and looted everywhere they went.
One stunning (eyewitness) story I heard on the radio was from a captive in the 'women-only' concentration camp of Ravensbrück, where many (communist) restince women were sent, and that was liberated by the soviets, who had their will afterwards.
Nobody of the women's 'comrades' back home was willing to hear their stories, since they could 'obviously' not be true
I've also heard eyewitness stories from Germans fleeing eastern-Prussia...not nice.
I was also amazed when I heard that many German POW's didn't return to Germany untill the late 50's. If they ever returned that is.
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There is a recent history book on this subject - Stalins Hämnd ("Stalin's Revenge") by Swedish Radio journalist Niclas Sennerteg. 400 pages of suffering. I don't know if it's translated to any other language. It does not cover the capture of Berlin, which is covered by Antony Beevor's "Berlin". I'm reading that book right now but haven't come to the aftermath yet.So get your Naomi Klein books and move it or I'll seriously bash your faces in! - Supercitizen to stupid students
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Then you have more faith than I.The world was much more brutal back then
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I have known about this, but I do not remember where I learned about it, probably from history books. But it would be interesting to know whether stories of these atrocities were reported in Western media that the time? I doubt it, because there seems to have been a significant amount of press censorship imposed either by the government or by the media themselves where such attrocities by the "Allied" side were simply not reported.http://tools.wikimedia.de/~gmaxwell/jorbis/JOrbisPlayer.php?path=John+Williams+The+Imperial+M arch+from+The+Empire+Strikes+Back.ogg&wiki=enComment
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It's not excusable, but considering what the Nazis did to the USSR, it's certainly understandable. Twenty to thirty million dead countrymen will make you want revenge.Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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How do you loot/rape in a 'mid-evil' style? Is it better to loot in 'late-evil' style or a 'early-evil' style?Comment
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So.. when do we get Karelia back?In da butt.
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Originally posted by reds4ever
How do you loot/rape in a 'mid-evil' style? Is it better to loot in 'late-evil' style or a 'early-evil' style?
In the middle ages, when a city was sieged a message was sent to surrender, they had 3 days to comply.
If they didnt surrender, and if the city fell to the siegers, the troops would be allowd to have their will with the city for 3 days.
It was a historical refference.Comment
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ISTR from "Barbarossa" written by a fairly conservative Brit historian, that large scale raping and looting by Soviet troops began when they crossed the German border in to East Prussia - IE they did NOT rape and loot in Poland and Czechoslovakia (I dont recall him mentioning Finland or Hungary) though I suppose there were exceptions.Originally posted by germanos
The soviets raped and looted everywhere they went.
One stunning (eyewitness) story I heard on the radio was from a captive in the 'women-only' concentration camp of Ravensbrück, where many (communist) restince women were sent, and that was liberated by the soviets, who had their will afterwards.
Nobody of the women's 'comrades' back home was willing to hear their stories, since they could 'obviously' not be true
I've also heard eyewitness stories from Germans fleeing eastern-Prussia...not nice.
I was also amazed when I heard that many German POW's didn't return to Germany untill the late 50's. If they ever returned that is.
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oh, you mean medievilOriginally posted by Vesayen
In the middle ages, when a city was sieged a message was sent to surrender, they had 3 days to comply.
If they didnt surrender, and if the city fell to the siegers, the troops would be allowd to have their will with the city for 3 days.
It was a historical refference.
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