October 14

[Zkribbler]

We should mark this momentus celebration by extending the institution of marriage to all adults who wish to be married.

[Drake Tungsten]

The Mormons will be happy to hear that.

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by Anun Ik Oba
And 'Human Dignity' is an oxymoron.

It is?

[MrFun]

There is nothing wrong with celebrating the institution of marriage.

But when you try to exclude non-heterosexuals to imply that they are incapable of having family values, you are trying to take away their dignity.

Bush's ignorant proclamation is a vieled attack on non-heterosexuals by explicitly stating that marriage is only between two people of the opposite genders when this is not the case. Many non-heterosexuals have entered into a symbolic union very much similar to marriage.

For Bush to deny that non-heterosexuals do not value their families, is ignorant and hateful.

Oh, and SlowwHand -- this was not meant to be a troll against you. I really did not know if you were alluding to this upcoming event or not.

[MikeH]

That's what I said in one sentence.

[MrFun]

Yeah, so I read.

But I wanted to share my explanation -- I hope that is alright with you.

[SlowwHand]

I knew you weren't trolling me, or anything.
I just wanted to take the opportunity to bug you.
You know how I am.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by SlowwHand
I knew you weren't trolling me, or anything.
I just wanted to take the opportunity to bug you.
You know how I am.

Ok -- I just thought you were angry when you typed "badger breath" but I guess you were just poking me in the ribs for fun.



But really, there is no need for this proclamation by President Bush.

[Tiberius]

MrFun, the proclamation is OK, only he shouldn't have used it against non-heterosexuals. But that's the Bush administration, what can you do? Always against something or someone.

[Dry]

We are not so far from another right-winger family lover.
The Marechal Petain.

This guy was convinced that France lost the war against Germany because of the wacky liberal values of Liberte-Egalite-Fraternite (freedom-equality-brotherhood).
He replaced them with the more traditional, conservative values of travail-famille-patrie (work-family-homecountry).

Isn't George prefering homecountry to brotherhood (USA vs UN, aka rule #6 of the 'rule of eight' of the holmites: American 'justice may be dictated' to the world)?
Who cares about the UN. Is that a WoW? No! But the flag: yes!... or, if it's not, then it should be.

Isn't he prefering family to equality: Is there a 'abolition of slavery' day ? or a 'universal sufferage' day ?
Who cares about the the Universal Sufferage? Is that a WoW? No. But the family, yes,... it's even more: it's [i]an intitution[\i] that needs a special day to be remembered. He probably means some kind of great human progess, I guess!?

We do not know if he prefers work to freedom, but we know he prefers security to freedom.

2.5 on 3 on the petainist scale. Not bad.

No wonder he has problems with the frenchies.

[Ben Kenobi]

Promoting healthy marriages is great as long as you let everyone get married.

Everyone ought to be allowed to marry someone of the opposite sex.

But really, there is no need for this proclamation by President Bush.

Sure there is. Look at what's happening here in Canada. If you believe in preserving marriage, you ought to take concrete steps like this.

What I like is that Bush recognises the corrosiveness of divorce and seeks to strengthen those marriages already in existence.

[Sirotnikov]

Who cares about the the Universal Sufferage? Is that a WoW? No.

I think you've confused "suffer" and "suffrage"

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Ben Kenobi


Everyone ought to be allowed to marry someone of the opposite sex.

You are wallowing in the mudpit of ignorance by believing that non-heterosexuals cannot appreciate familly values.

[MrFun]

Originally posted by Tiberius
MrFun, the proclamation is OK, only he shouldn't have used it against non-heterosexuals. But that's the Bush administration, what can you do? Always against something or someone.

I need to find out if there is any civil rights activist organization that has organized a protest during this same week, in which non-heterosexuals can express their appreciation of family values in Washington DC, for instance.

But that would be one example of what we can do to counter this ignorant attack by President Bush.

[Ben Kenobi]

You are wallowing in the mudpit of ignorance by believing that non-heterosexuals cannot appreciate familly values.

Just where have I said that?

I ask again, how am I being discriminatory? I ask the same for everyone. Everyone ought to be able to marry someone of the opposite sex.