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  • I've said it before, I know, but we really need the Mandate of Heaven in this country.

    And yes, Mary Carey the pornstar was a candidate. Her platform included fighting with Ashcroft to defend the porn industry, auto-registering people who sign up for unemployment for jury duty, and making lap dances tax-deductible. So they really did elect a lesser evil...by a narrow margin.
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    • Originally posted by Ned
      Arnie is extremely popular because he is very [...] pro-jobs ...
      In contrast to all those politicians that are so anti-jobs.
      Last edited by Kropotkin; October 8, 2003, 13:11.

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      • [QUOTE] Originally posted by Kropotkin
        Originally posted by Ned
        Arnie is extremely popular because he is very [...] pro-jobs .../QUOTE]
        In contrast to all those politicians that are so anti-jobs.
        K, yes, verily. I think people know that if you have no business you have no jobs. The Democrat party has a reputation for being anti-business.
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        • Hmmm, I remember certain people saying Arnie would never win and Bustamante was a done deal .

          Anyway, it's interesting to see that Schwartzenegger got almost 50% of the vote with McClintock getting 13%. I'm thinking Cruz was tarred with the brush of Davis.
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          • Originally posted by Azazel
            I never knew Michael Jackson was a republican.
            He is not the Michael Jackson we all know, it is just someone with the same name.
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            • Yeah Arnie!!!

              I thought it was funny that now that they aren't slandering Arnold the reporters can't pronounce Schwarzeneger anymore...Jackasses

              Anyway, yea!!!
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              • I am glad that the recall went through!



                I think if all Arnold does is veto the junk that comes out of the legislature that will good. I also think that he can shed lots of light on what goes on in the State capital and with that attention, maybe things will get done.

                Maybe the next one to get recalled should be Bustamante.
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                • Originally posted by Ned


                  K, yes, verily. I think people know that if you have no business you have no jobs. The Democrat party has a reputation for being anti-business.



                  Classic Ned.
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                  • Arnie is extremely popular because he is very pro-business and pro-jobs while having no social-conservative baggage. If Bush learns from Arnie and adopts the same approach, he could win here.
                    Ned:

                    What do I have to say? Not going to happen. The efforts to win California are much less important than winning many other smaller states in terms of both cost and effort.

                    Many people vote for Bush precisely because he is socially conservative. Even if he were to 'rebrand' himself, I doubt people would change their minds about Bush.
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                    • The best part of this is that Arnold has 48% of vote. Thus this will give him the support he needs when he moves into the office of the Governor and starts trying to fix the mess Gray left behind him.
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                      • If you want you can go here:


                        and get a summary of the results on the recall, the replacements and the props.
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                        • It wasn't that long ago, just prior to the debate the Democrat establishment and their press lapdogs said Arnie lost, that Clinton political advisor **** Morris said that Arnold was not going to win, but that Bustamente would.

                          I think the thing that turned the election around was the ACLU power grab at the 9th Circuit. That made people angry. Then Arnie did well in the debate. Then the LA Times struck, making the people mad again.

                          Had the Dems simply played fair. Had they fielded Diane Feinstein. They may have won. But they played dirty to the wire.
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                          • Originally posted by monkspider





                            Classic Ned.
                            Yeah, you guys on the left have no clue.
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                            • Originally posted by Ned
                              It wasn't that long ago, just prior to the debate the Democrat establishment and their press lapdogs said Arnie lost, that Clinton political advisor **** Morris said that Arnold was not going to win, but that Bustamente would.

                              I think the thing that turned the election around was the ACLU power grab at the 9th Circuit. That made people angry. Then Arnie did well in the debate. Then the LA Times struck, making the people mad again.

                              Had the Dems simply played fair. Had they fielded Diane Feinstein. They may have won. But they played dirty to the wire.
                              Yes if the Dems had dumped Davis and join everyone else in the recall and put Diane Feinstein up, it would be much different result today. Well its their fault for not thinking this through.

                              If Davis had waited to tripple the car tax untill after the recall, had not given drivers licenses to illigeals and done some real workers comp reform I think he would have never been recalled.
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                              • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi


                                Ned:

                                What do I have to say? Not going to happen. The efforts to win California are much less important than winning many other smaller states in terms of both cost and effort.

                                Many people vote for Bush precisely because he is socially conservative. Even if he were to 'rebrand' himself, I doubt people would change their minds about Bush.
                                California, as a whole, is a majority socially liberal state, although it does have a very large number of social conservatives. As a whole, "Kali"-fornia it is immensely pro-business as anyone who observes our economy can see. To win here as a Republican, you really have to be at least in the middle on abortion and the environment, but have to hammer the pro-business, pro-job line.

                                In recent years, Republicans have been running candidates who either have no vision or who are social conservatives. It is very hard for such candidates to win here.

                                Arnold, a "liberal" Republican probably never could have gotten the Republican nomination given that he is so liberal on social issues. This election was perfect for him. He could by-pass the party and go directly to the people. He turned out to be the ideal candidate.

                                What I am suggesting is that Arnold is the prototype for the Republican party's future. Conservative on fiscal affairs. Pro business. Pro jobs. Pro strong America. But moderate to liberal on social issues.

                                If you think about it, this was the position of JFK as well. It is no wonder that the Kennedy's were there on the platform with Arnie. Schwarzenegger is the true heir to JFK, while is brother in the Senate is a skirt-chasing, boozing, bad driver.

                                And, Che, note that Arnie took half the union vote!
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