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**Verto** · September 23, 2003, 19:52

Originally posted by SlowwHand
Ok, here's the deal, Verto and Obi.

Going on what you say, one way or another, God made a mistake.
I want to tell you, that would make me extremely nervous.
God doesn't make mistakes. Period.

Who said He made a mistake?

EDIT: Let me clarify. We feel homosexuals need to try to overcome their 'tendencies'. But, as they do that (and don't act upon them), we don't scream fire and brimstone at them.

**Asher** · September 23, 2003, 19:52

Originally posted by Agathon
Aw boo hoo. I can't stand these people either. I fill with rage every morning when I pass the newstand and see whatever right wing lies the Sun is promoting today. I fume when I can't turn anywhere without seeing vacuous adverts. etc. etc.

Part of living in a pluralistic society is that we have to put up with people and things we don't like. Some of the religious people hate gays - no matter, they still have to put up with you.

Thank you for your stunning insight, as usual.

**Lincoln** · September 23, 2003, 19:54

Originally posted by Asher

As it occured to you, as Christians, that perhaps not everybody believes in the same wishywashy Santa Claus, Easter Bunny, God crap that you do? That we might find it offensive, downright annoying, and extremely condescending of you to call out to everyone to repent because some ancient book, interpreted in some ancient and twisted way, says what they do is wrong.

It's their life, not yours, so stay out of it.

**Agathon** · September 23, 2003, 19:58

Originally posted by Asher

Thank you for your stunning insight, as usual.

Just because you think the whole of society should be run exactly the way you want it, in line with your personal values.

Get real. These people aren't going away and neither are you.

You might complain that their ranting annoys you, but in my book you can just be thankful that people have generally agreed to ignore each others' foibles rather than solving them at the point of a gun. The mark of a successful society is that people don't vent their personal values on others at the point of a gun. Experience teaches us you can't hope for much better than that.

**Asher** · September 23, 2003, 19:58

Originally posted by Lincoln
Is that what you call "living by the golden rule"?

Yes, because I'm treating certain people how I was treated. Do you understand how the golden rule works?

I know quite a few gays btw who have left the so called gay lifestyle and never went back. Are you really qualified to read their minds and say that they are all faking it?

No, but they're presumably bisexual or partly so because they would obviously have some attraction to the opposite sex.

Most of them are very grateful that someone cared enough to help them find the difference between lust and love.

**** you.

**Agathon** · September 23, 2003, 19:58

Originally posted by Lincoln

Has it ever occured to you that some Christians are offended by you blasting them and their God with statements like this: "...wishywashy Santa Claus, Easter Bunny, God crap." Is that what you call "living by the golden rule"?

No it hasn't because in his world, only what Asher finds offensive really matters.

**Asher** · September 23, 2003, 19:59

Originally posted by Agathon
Just because you think the whole of society should be run exactly the way you want it, in line with your personal values.

Get real. These people aren't going away and neither are you.

Stop being a moron, of course they aren't going away and neither am I.

Who gave you the god-given right to ***** (ie, what you're doing now), but not me?

**Asher** · September 23, 2003, 20:00

Originally posted by Agathon
No it hasn't because in his world, only what Asher finds offensive really matters.

That doesn't even answer his question, Agathon. Try reading it.

**Agathon** · September 23, 2003, 20:01

Originally posted by Asher

Stop being a moron, of course they aren't going away and neither am I.

Then get over yourself and stop being a pathetic *******.

**Lincoln** · September 23, 2003, 20:01

Originally posted by Asher

**** you.

Well many gays would argue with you as well. There is a difference between love and lust regardless of one's sexual orientation.

**Asher** · September 23, 2003, 20:02

Originally posted by Lincoln
Well many gays would argue with you as well. There is a difference between love and lust regardless of one's sexual orientation.

No ****, Lincoln, but you implied that homosexuals are about lust and heterosexuals about love.

Hence, "**** you".

**SlowwHand** · September 23, 2003, 20:05

Originally posted by Verto

Who said He made a mistake?

EDIT: Let me clarify. We feel homosexuals need to try to overcome their 'tendencies'. But, as they do that (and don't act upon them), we don't scream fire and brimstone at them.

And Methodist's feel we have enough to do, keeping ourself in line.
It isn't your place to condemn, or pass judgement, on others.

And if anyone mentions to Mr****ingFun that I'm standing up for Gays, two things will happen.

1) I'll denounce you as a liar
2) I'll kick your ass.

**Asher** · September 23, 2003, 20:05

Originally posted by Agathon
Then get over yourself and stop being a pathetic *******.

So you're saying I don't have a right to ***** about religious *******s writing **** like "Come, we need victims" on the GLASS posters on campus?

Or the nutcase screaming about how God have condemned homosexuals to hell on campus?

I have a right to *****, I have a right to vent.

It's YOU that needs to get over yourself and stop being a pathetic *******.

**Lincoln** · September 23, 2003, 20:06

Originally posted by Asher

No ****, Lincoln, but you implied that homosexuals are about lust and heterosexuals about love.

Hence, "**** you".

Well you misread my mind

So you can apologize now... Lust effects everyone. We all have to deal with it.

**Asher** · September 23, 2003, 20:07

Originally posted by Lincoln
Well you misread my mind

So you can apologize now... Lust effects everyone. We all have to deal with it.

I'm not apologizing for something blatantly obvious in your post.

I know quite a few gays btw who have left the so called gay lifestyle and never went back. Are you really qualified to read their minds and say that they are all faking it? Most of them are very grateful that someone cared enough to help them find the difference between lust and love.

Christians help convert "gays" into "straights".
Said people are "grateful that someone cared enough to help them find the difference between lust and love"

Are you seriously too dense to realize what you type?

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