Indisputable Abortion FACTS:

[Zylka]

Originally posted by Spiffor
And once again, Zylka blatantly ignores the very many circumstances that I cited repeatedly in which a woman can become pregnant even when she didn't intended to (i.e had protected sex / thought she had protected sex).

What I find most stupid is that Z is all 'blame the woman'. Yet apparently, the man shouldn't take responsability. Of course, it is only natural to a man to have recreative sex, while it is only natural to a woman to have reproductive sex I guess

HEY SPIFF - WHAT PERCENT CHANCE DO THESE CIRCUMSTANCES TOTAL?

HEY SPIFF, AS WELL - DID I NOT SAY THAT I'D LIKE TO TACKLE MAJORITY SITUATION FIRST, BEFORE THE FREAK-FIVE PERCENTILE

HI - WE'RE SPEAKING ENGLISH IN THIS THREAD!

[Zylka]

Originally posted by Spiffor

What I find most stupid is that Z is all 'blame the woman'. Yet apparently, the man shouldn't take responsability. Of course, it is only natural to a man to have recreative sex, while it is only natural to a woman to have reproductive sex I guess

Of course the man should take equal responsibility, don't be a f*cking hack putting words in my mouth. Fortunately enough, the man don't have legal choice on whether or not to abort - and is not the primary opinion considered in most cases. Does this make any sense???

[monolith94]

Zylka, your feelings on the subject would be exactly the same if you were a woman?

[Zylka]

Originally posted by monolith94
Zylka, your feelings on the subject would be exactly the same if you were a woman?

How could I ever logically answer that? How could you?

[monolith94]

I can answer it easily. Yeah, if I was a woman, my position on abortion would be the same.

My point is, it's alot easier for you to tell someone else what to do, when it's something you're never going to have to really worry about.

[Zylka]

Oh. So I, as well as the rest of the world, should sit back gayly and concern ourselves only with the allowance and consequences of our own actions?

What do you call that world, exactly?

[Zylka]

Originally posted by monolith94
I can answer it easily. Yeah, if I was a woman, my position on abortion would be the same.

Sorry - you can't answer that. A different body, brain and set of experiences leads to a different perception. If you believe you have an infinite gauge of response to perception pegged, you must be God.

[st_swithin]

You humans with your silly logic, while Kang and Kodos have each brought a board with a nail in it! KNEEL BEFORE US, PUNY MORTALS!! MUAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

[monolith94]

"Oh. So I, as well as the rest of the world, should sit back gayly and concern ourselves only with the allowance and consequences of our own actions?
What do you call that world, exactly?"
Heaven

"you must be God."
ding ding ding! give the man a balloon. Don't get semantic on my, you ass, especially considering this seems to me just to be your 'token moral'.

[Zylka]

No buddy. No matter what you say, you can not decide "what you would do" with an entirely different perception. I'm not getting semantic, I'm being realistic.

There will be no "If I was a woman, I would think the same" nor "If I was Hitler - I would have not started the war!". If you were anything but you, you wouldn't be you. If this isn't painfully obvious, I worry dearly for your future.

[st_swithin]

Dog is my copilot.

Bloody 'ell, where are me 'aitches goin'?

[monolith94]

You're the one being unrealistic, sacrificing a woman's future so that some hypothetical human comes into a world that doesn't want it. And part of being human is the ability to imagine oneself in another's position. If you can't understand where others come from, their motivations, their hopes, their etcetera, and you can't calculate all that together, I worry for the future.

[Zylka]

Originally posted by monolith94
"Oh. So I, as well as the rest of the world, should sit back gayly and concern ourselves only with the allowance and consequences of our own actions?
What do you call that world, exactly?"

Heaven

Ah. I hear heaven is lovely - with individuals running around (possibly) ruining or destroying existence for countless others (the examples are infinite) - yet it is only for them to decide their own right to do so and whether or not the consequences are other's business.

Semantics hurt, don't they. Furthermore, it looks like logic is the enemy of a sugar puff "the individual is always right, and has unlimited rights" Heaven.

[Geronimo]

Originally posted by Zylka
I AM ANTI WOMAN

DISCUSSION OVER!!!

Well you've certainly alienated me now.

[monolith94]

"(possibly)"