Indisputable Abortion FACTS:

[Zylka]

Originally posted by monolith94
You're the one being unrealistic, sacrificing a woman's future so that some hypothetical human comes into a world that doesn't want it. And part of being human is the ability to imagine oneself in another's position. If you can't understand where others come from, their motivations, their hopes, their etcetera, and you can't calculate all that together, I worry for the future.

We're just facing off on the impossible, aren't we?

Yet with every continuing description of "knowing and understanding the situation and personality of others" and "knowing when a new should be denied entrance into the world" - my own skecth of pro-choice personality becomes more vivid.

Christ, I always thought I was the most arrogant mind on this board...

[monolith94]

Not arrogant...

realistic.

[st_swithin]

A fig for reality.

[Zylka]

Originally posted by monolith94

realistic.

Apparently not

[Check my unanswered mocking of a few posts ago ]

[monolith94]

apparently zylka and I live on two different worlds

[Zylka]

Why - is quoting a single word of a response and putting an emoticon after it an answer in your wonderful plane of reality?

[monolith94]

monoliths are from mars, zylkas are from venus. that's my opinion on the subject. and with that, I go to bed.

[st_swithin]

You cheeky monkey, you!

[Spiffor]

Most unwanted pregnancies come from the man's behaviour. The ancient favorite, which still is a blast today, is that the man promises to stop before ejaculation. This 'contraception' method almost never works, because 1) the man rarely stops in time and 2) some sperm is secreted before ejaculation, meaning a girl can become pregnant even if the man stopped in a timely fashion. The sad thing is that it's not common knowledge.

Another favourite is when the man leaves the woman because he can't tolerate her being pregnant. It happens very, very often as well, to teenagers mostly.
Of course, you aren't able to fathom uninformed / naive teens being plunged into unwanted pregnancy, because the only thing you are thinking about is yourself and your little middle class sexual life.

Obviously, the situations make for less than 5% of unwanted pregnancies ? Obviously, aborting women are all sluts who want to take a condomless **** hard, and then willfully kill the baby for whom they feel nothing. Yes, how dare these sluts take up 95% of the abortions !

[Urban Ranger]

Originally posted by yavoon
so u decided to play god? u foresaw a future that YOU wouldn't want to live in. and then decided that instead of letting the child live u would simply kill it. isnt that a lil beyond a persons scope?

so u decided to play god? u foresaw a future that YOU wouldn't want to live in. and then decided that instead of letting the mother having the abortion u would simply force her to bear it to term. isnt that a lil beyond a persons scope?

[Zylka]

Guess what UR - No one, and I mean NO ONE respects you or your opinions, so please quietly leave my thread.

[Zylka]

Originally posted by Spiffor
Most unwanted pregnancies come from the man's behaviour. The ancient favorite, which still is a blast today, is that the man promises to stop before ejaculation. This 'contraception' method almost never works, because 1) the man rarely stops in time and 2) some sperm is secreted before ejaculation, meaning a girl can become pregnant even if the man stopped in a timely fashion. The sad thing is that it's not common knowledge.

Another favourite is when the man leaves the woman because he can't tolerate her being pregnant. It happens very, very often as well, to teenagers mostly.
Of course, you aren't able to fathom uninformed / naive teens being plunged into unwanted pregnancy, because the only thing you are thinking about is yourself and your little middle class sexual life.

Obviously, the situations make for less than 5% of unwanted pregnancies ? Obviously, aborting women are all sluts who want to take a condomless **** hard, and then willfully kill the baby for whom they feel nothing. Yes, how dare these sluts take up 95% of the abortions !

Blar blar blar. Come up with some large percentage stats and I'll give the sob stories a look

[tinyp3nis]

Zylka, are you serious? Do you actually believe anything you are saying? I wonder if your just a pro-choicer trolling your ass off.

[st_swithin]

hee hee hee!

"A true fisher of men is the Master Baiter" - goong fu tze, literal translation

[Zylka]

Ok guys, I'm sorry to have become so aggravated - but here's the basic conversation as I recieve it [feel free to show me your own version ]


Pro-Choicer: Abortion is wonderful. Just think of all the misery it stops!

Me: The degrees of misery you have in mind do not justify murder to eliminate them.

Pro-Choicer: It's not murder! I know it isn't because I am realistic, and that's all I need to say.

Me: I don't really know for sure if it is, but a large enough opinion holds it as chance - so why even risk murder when you're simply trying to alleviate 9 months of pregnancy and labour?

Pro-Choicer: Ok, even if a fetus is alive, making it murder - HOW does it make sense to make a woman go through pregnancy etc. when she didn't want the unborn baby and it was its choice to be concievd?

Me: It wasn't the (now) babies choice to concieve - I'm pretty sure of that much! So if she didn't want the baby, she and Jack shouldn't have been f*cking in the first place.

Pro-Choicer: Yet even if she took measures to avoid the pregnancy - it still happens! Think rape or the ever brilliant and consistent "pulling out" contraception method!

Me: Unfortunately - these things do happen, but are in minority case. I would well tackle them before coming to complete terms, only when the majority is dealt with. So from now on, this point is seen as a smokescreen to the major issue, ok?

Pro-Choicer: ...but even the majority don't want the child. Again, even if indeed it is "MURDER" - infringing upon the wants and comfort of the would be mother is worse than the mercy killing itself! This is a woman's body, after all!

Me: How could you EVER justify murder over a relative 9 month (or even life) comfort?

Pro-Choicer: YOU HATE WOMEN! YOU HATE THE VAGINA AND DESPISE THE FEMALE RACE

Me: what