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If it gets ratified that my embryo has the same rights I do, then it should get the fvck out of my uterus and get its own goddam apartment and get a job.
I'm REFUSE to support it - I'd want an abortion, but OOOOOooOOOOOh NOOOO - some a55hole decides that after he sticks his **** somewhere that everything that comes out afterwards is his.
Out of spite, I'd sh1t the little monster out and send it to live with its biological Dad.
Well, here ya go. *POOF!*
How's that prostate feeling now? Gosh, that sure is going to hurt on the way out, huh?
I think you meant to say ours? On the other hand you did not want it he did, his by right of care, compassion, concern, love and natural parental instincts let alone humanitarianism. The basic things your comment lacks...I would say he is off to the right start of a great parent you? Of course you have rights too, but at this point it is a two to one vote...
Out of spite, I'd sh1t the little monster out and send it to live with its biological Dad.
I am sure if the father was caring enough to fight an up hill battle for the right of his unborn child. You would have made this father the happiest person in the world. I am also sure his soon to be human child will reap the rewards of such an outstanding human care giver, (parent) you?
I am also sure if you reiterated those comments you made here in front of any doctor you would be spending some time in a special ward during and after the s*itting. On the other hand comments like this make the perfect pro abortion poster ads...Include you picture ok?
I for one, simply can not understand anyone who would want to kill off thier sibblings... Be it born or not, to me it shows a complete lack of compassion, concern, love and natural parental instincts let alone humanitarianism. It takes a special person to do those things. First thing is you have be able to think of someone other than yourself...
It takes care, compassion, concern, love and natural parental instincts to see a birth though let alone raise the child. If people lack these skills they can be aquired. If they refuse to aquire them, then by all means please wear a condom and use the pill... We have enough parasites and animals in the world let alone uncaring parents. Parents in this meaning is simply the wrong word to use...Back to parisites and animals...
Parisites, animals give it a break when science creates a parasite in a human womb and it grows into a parasite-human I'll believe you. When science see's a woman or a man for that matter drop out a calf-human, I'll say animal, your right. Until then you have a man a woman creating a child. A human being... From the onset, that is what will you get, that is what will it will be.
To kill a human is murder regardless of the stage of maturity or immaturity. Call it what you will to justify your convictions, beliefs, it is murder of an unborn human period.
Parasites Look around people how many full grown parasites did you meet today. Several I bet... It's the human way.....Look to politics if you missed one. Do we have to go into animals of society? Read the paper...Bottom line is they are human, from conception to death they are humans...
“The Communist Manifesto was correct…but…we see the privileges of the capitalist bourgeoisie yielding…to democratic organizations…In my judgment…success lies in a steady [peaceful] advance…[rather]…than in…a catastrophic crash."Eduard Bernstein
Or do we?
To kill a human is murder regardless of the stage of maturity or immaturity. Call it what you will to justify your convictions, beliefs, it is murder of an unborn human period.
Yet another anti-abortionist that denies the very valid arguements which have been put forward regarding the future prospectives after the birth of the child and the impact on the surroundings and the society. Please, stop throwing those moral issue notes at pro-abortionists as you now again fail to discuss it on the same practical level as we. What's the point in staying to issue #1 as Spiffor ranked it?
"Kids, don't listen to uncle Solver unless you want your parents to spank you." - Solver
I think you meant to say ours? On the other hand you did not want it he did, his by right of care, compassion, concern, love and natural parental instincts let alone humanitarianism. The basic things your comment lacks...I would say he is off to the right start of a great parent you? Of course you have rights too, but at this point it is a two to one vote...
Out of spite, I'd sh1t the little monster out and send it to live with its biological Dad.
I am sure if the father was caring enough to fight an up hill battle for the right of his unborn child. You would have made this father the happiest person in the world. I am also sure his soon to be human child will reap the rewards of such an outstanding human care giver, (parent) you?
I am also sure if you reiterated those comments you made here in front of any doctor you would be spending some time in a special ward during and after the s*itting. On the other hand comments like this make the perfect pro abortion poster ads...Include you picture ok?
I for one, simply can not understand anyone who would want to kill off thier sibblings... Be it born or not, to me it shows a complete lack of compassion, concern, love and natural parental instincts let alone humanitarianism. It takes a special person to do those things. First thing is you have be able to think of someone other than yourself...
It takes care, compassion, concern, love and natural parental instincts to see a birth though let alone raise the child. If people lack these skills they can be aquired. If they refuse to aquire them, then by all means please wear a condom and use the pill... We have enough parasites and animals in the world let alone uncaring parents. Parents in this meaning is simply the wrong word to use...Back to parisites and animals...
Parisites, animals give it a break when science creates a parasite in a human womb and it grows into a parasite-human I'll believe you. When science see's a woman or a man for that matter drop out a calf-human, I'll say animal, your right. Until then you have a man a woman creating a child. A human being... From the onset, that is what will you get, that is what will it will be.
To kill a human is murder regardless of the stage of maturity or immaturity. Call it what you will to justify your convictions, beliefs, it is murder of an unborn human period.
Parasites Look around people how many full grown parasites did you meet today. Several I bet... It's the human way.....Look to politics if you missed one. Do we have to go into animals of society? Read the paper...Bottom line is they are human, from conception to death they are humans...
Originally posted by Gibsie
Just so we're completely clear with the pro-lifers here: abstract comparison time!
if one day you, the pro-lifer reading this, and I were to wake up in bed together with no memory or evidence of the previous night whatsoever other than the presence of a couple of used condom on the floor, and you discovered that somehow our bodies had become hooked up so that I was using all of your vital organs to sustain myself and I would surely die if I was removed... would it be murder for you to remove me from your body?
Yes, it would. Of course, there has never been a precident for this hypothetical case. There have been cases in which Siamese twins have undergone surgical seperation even though it was clear that one would not be viable, however in those circumstances you'll find that the likelihood for survival of both without surgical seperation was very low.
"I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!
You 'fathers' can take all your little abortions and be as righteous and kind as you want, but you can just leave me the **** out of it. I want no part of your bull****.
If that makes me a Dowager queen - well, better a dowager than chained down having my liver picked apart by ****ing VULTURES for ALL ETERNITY.
If some man ever really loved me, he'd respect EVERY WORD I'VE SAID AS THE ****ING GOSPEL. That's why I know I've NEVER been in love. I've NEVER met ANYONE even REMOTELY like that, EVER.
I probably never will. Which means, of course, that there's a chance.
Originally posted by st_swithin
I'm not interested in having ANY kids, EVER.
You 'fathers' can take all your little abortions and be as righteous and kind as you want, but you can just leave me the **** out of it. I want no part of your bull****.
If that makes me a Dowager queen - well, better a dowager than chained down having my liver picked apart by ****ing VULTURES for ALL ETERNITY.
If some man ever really loved me, he'd respect EVERY WORD I'VE SAID AS THE ****ING GOSPEL. That's why I know I've NEVER been in love. I've NEVER met ANYONE even REMOTELY like that, EVER.
I probably never will. Which means, of course, that there's a chance.
Surely you must be dead, Mr. Feynman?
Judging by the degree of thought disorder manifest in your posting all of us here at Apolyton agree that it would indeed be preferrable that you not procreate, as there is considerable evidence that that sort of thing is transmitted genetically.
Have you ever considered sealing your resolve with a surgical procedure?
"I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!
Originally posted by Jack the Bodiless
How far do you want to take this?
Your examples (And mine) are too extreme for people to really consider. Here's a simple one: if people who have sex are consenting to the consequences of sex, then they are not only consenting to have a baby, but also to being infected with any STD's present in their sexual partner.
This would bring us to the rather bizarre stage where it would not only be illegal to have an abortion as the whore (Or "woman", as us pro-choicers refer to people with unwanted pregnancies) consented to the pregnancy, but also to any STD's that could kill the foetus before birth if not treated; and they couldn't be treated as she knew the risks and must live with the consequences of her actions.
Your examples (And mine) are too extreme for people to really consider. Here's a simple one: if people who have sex are consenting to the consequences of sex, then they are not only consenting to have a baby, but also to being infected with any STD's present in their sexual partner.
This would bring us to the rather bizarre stage where it would not only be illegal to have an abortion as the whore (Or "woman", as us pro-choicers refer to people with unwanted pregnancies) consented to the pregnancy, but also to any STD's that could kill the foetus before birth if not treated; and they couldn't be treated as she knew the risks and must live with the consequences of her actions.
Fetuses aren't a disease. If they are, what does that make you?
"I say shoot'em all and let God sort it out in the end!
No, foetuses aren't a disease (And I find descriptions of them as parasites equally disturbing; plus I was always under the impression that parasitism only occurs between organisms of differing species); this is why the way it's looked at as an issue of consent and responsibility is stupid in my eyes; it should be about whether the foetus is worth protecting like a born human, or if it's as expendable as a disease.
If someone just says "You spread your legs, now deal with the consequences", they're clearly using the issue to punish women for having sex. That should not be the issue.
Doc: too much rhetoric for my taste. Go be a senator.
Gibsie: GROW THE FVCK UP. Parasites come in ALL shapes, sizes, and species, parTICularly and ESPECIALLY the HUMAN species.
It's obvious I'm the only woman here, because I'm the only one not blaming a 'whore' for 'spreading her legs' in the first place, and I'm not condemning her to have to 'deal with the consequences,' despite there being an additional absent party involved.
Evidence? Thank goodness for DNA testing. SOMEONE'S gonna have to own up once they're tracked down. It's a lot more persistent than people give it credit - DNA can persist in vivo (i.e. inside a living organism) for YEARS, even sperm.
Of course, if she was masturbating and somehow became pregnant, I could understand that some sort of dilemma had occurred, but otherwise, doesn't it take two (2) to tango? And even if the 'immaculate conception' DID take place - see above about DNA evidence.
However not regarding the on-topic issue which was abortion. 
Look around people how many full grown parasites did you meet today. Several I bet... It's the human way.....Look to politics if you missed one. Do we have to go into animals of society? Read the paper...Bottom line is they are human, from conception to death they are humans...
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