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  • #136
    Lets just say his doctrine is based on something unrealistic and purely evil.
    Not at all... monkspider's belief system is based upon the desire for peace, harmony, and equality. You may disagree with it, think it won't work; but those three ideals certainly aren't evil.

    Personally, I respect monkspider and his views. He is a moral person driven by good intentions. I just don't think that his particular brand of government/way of life is realistically feasible. It doesn't mean he's evil.
    To us, it is the BEAST.

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    • #137
      Originally posted by Sava
      Not at all... monkspider's belief system is based upon the desire for peace, harmony, and equality. You may disagree with it, think it won't work; but those three ideals certainly aren't evil.
      Well I am just trying to break up my opponent in this debate. I don't his philosophy will reach those goals, but rather I think it will degenerate into a Pol Pot like dictatorship.

      Personally, I respect monkspider and his views. He is a moral person driven by good intentions. I just don't think that his particular brand of government/way of life is realistically feasible. It doesn't mean he's evil.
      I think I went over the line calling him evil...

      He might have good intentions, but he is way too imposing over those who happen to have different views then him.
      For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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      • #138
        Hey, no prob Immerz, I guess we simply reach a philosophical impasse.

        I am still going to try to take you up on that drink someday though.
        http://monkspider.blogspot.com/

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        • #139
          Please...
          You have misunderstood something Fez. You need to do your homework. Capitalism is not an ideology, such as Communism is.


          Let me try to enlighten you just a bit about capitalism:
          It's an economical system, which is operating under all kinds of ideologies. Socialeconomic analysis has discovered state-capitialism under the Soviet system, and under fascist systems as well. Capitalism works in the way of making profits, and taking it out. It's all about money you know. It can work in a market, or in a political system... It's even polymorphic and selfgoverning.
          My words are backed with hard coconuts.

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          • #140
            monk, did you see the short analysis of Leninism?
            Did you become enlightened?
            My words are backed with hard coconuts.

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            • #141
              I know Capitalism is an economic system. Communism can actually go both ways though. It is considered an economic system. However defective it may be.
              For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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              • #142
                Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                it is possible to think somebody is wrong, and to not be against them.


                Not when you are debating AGAINST them, Sava .
                But I'm not debating against him, in fact, many of monk's views are consistent with my own. I just think there are other ways of doing things.

                Thanks Sav, I actually don't like to think of myself as having any proper doctrine, per se. I'm a bit like you actually. I merely attach the "socialist" label to myself because I feel the need to identify with others in some way, even if I don't completely agree with the traditional doctrines that particular group espouses.
                It's actually quite silly. I might be wrong, but I have more of a reason to hate Soviets and Commies more than Fez (having some of my family killed and imprisoned by the Stalinists after WW2). I suppose learning of their experiences gives me a different perspective on things. After listening to you monk, hearing what you stand for, it's very obvious you don't stand for what Stalin and his murderous thugs stood for. Neither does anyone on these forums... Labels really bother me for that reason. People are too quick to generalize without listening to what people have to say. I'm guilty of this as well, though I'm trying to better myself. I'll paraphrase Kennedy:

                "We all breath the same air. We all live on the same planet. We all want the best for our children. We all want peace and prosperity."
                To us, it is the BEAST.

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                • #143
                  monkspider, as long as you are buying.

                  Btw, it was kinda amusing taking to someone about 'equality, harmony, peace' from someone with an avatar of an Empire Officer from Star Wars .
                  “I give you a new commandment, that you love one another. Just as I have loved you, you also should love one another. By this everyone will know that you are my disciples, if you have love for one another.”
                  - John 13:34-35 (NRSV)

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                  • #144
                    I think I went over the line calling him evil...
                    Yay Fez! This is the start of a beautiful friendship!
                    To us, it is the BEAST.

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                    • #145
                      I found out one of my relatives was murdered by communist forces during the Spanish Civil War. So I also have a reason to ***** about it.
                      For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                      • #146
                        Originally posted by ThePlagueRat
                        monk, did you see the short analysis of Leninism?
                        Did you become enlightened?
                        Yes, thank you Plague. Learning new things from knowledgeable people is the greatest part of Apolyton, IMO.
                        http://monkspider.blogspot.com/

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                        • #147
                          Originally posted by Sava
                          Yay Fez! This is the start of a beautiful friendship!
                          With you? Gah.. I think I am in love with you.. lol... must avoid the temptation.. you are straight and this is the internet.
                          For there is [another] kind of violence, slower but just as deadly, destructive as the shot or the bomb in the night. This is the violence of institutions -- indifference, inaction, and decay. This is the violence that afflicts the poor, that poisons relations between men because their skin has different colors. - Bobby Kennedy (Mindless Menance of Violence)

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                          • #148
                            Good monk. Then, I did my homework well back at college.

                            And Fez:
                            Sorry about you relatives who was killed in the Civil War.
                            I guess it could have been fascists who did it as well?
                            Many evil things happened back then, on both sides.
                            My words are backed with hard coconuts.

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                            • #149
                              Originally posted by Imran Siddiqui
                              monkspider, as long as you are buying.

                              Btw, it was kinda amusing taking to someone about 'equality, harmony, peace' from someone with an avatar of an Empire Officer from Star Wars .


                              It's a "me and boris" thing. There was a thread about people with Star Wars avatars, and we were talking about the greatest imperial officers. Boris favored General Veers and made him his avatar. I always preferred Captain Needa, so I had to do the trendy thing and make him my avatar. I might go back to the traditional "monkspider" image soon though.
                              http://monkspider.blogspot.com/

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                              • #150
                                Hehe, Admiral Tarkin is the worst of the lot...
                                My words are backed with hard coconuts.

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