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*cg pulls GePaps shorts and runs! 
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Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree... -
GET BACK HERE YOU LITTLE PUNK!
If you don't like reality, change it! me
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"it is dangerous to be right when the government is wrong" Voltaire
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Unfortunately I'm not quite as eloquent in english as I am in german, but that wouldn't stop me from making long posts. Nor does a lack of arguments.Originally posted by oedo
I´m convinced that these on-liners oftenly aren´t caused by the lack of arguments, but by missing english words or grammar knowledge.
It's simply the lack of anything posted here that deserves a more elaborate discussion.“Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)Comment
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HAHA JUST AS WE THOUGHT!!!
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Or maybe there is something worth debating...
Of course. The question is, however, where does it go from here? The democratic elements in the system are promising IMO.Originally posted by GePap
Come on, che and Spiff: don;t become irrelevant like GP. Iran is not as dmneocraticas the US. It is a theocratic republic. Ayatollahs still control the moeans of internal violence, and the conservaitve ones that care more about the thoecratic than the republic part of the state are not shy about using them.
To fully appreciate that, one has to consider that western democracy is not simple majority rule. We have several elements that, while not being theocratic, are value-based: constitutional rights, first and foremost. While I don't share this view, it is easy to see them as judeo-christian values in enlightenment clothing. And we often have a judiciary that we see as guardians of those values. And the sacrosanct democratic majority is dubbed mob rule when we fundamentally disagree with it.
Our model won't be transplanted 1:1 into the islamic world. It even didn't in Japan or other east asian countries, although their idea of the "state" would make it much easier. So democracy in the islamic world has to take some form of open islam into account - US bombs are a very poor supplement for the 200 or 300 years of learning that the west got when it struggled with its religious questions.
A propos... when England developped its democratic institutions, it had a state religion and the test act. So us westerners should be a bit less condescending on that issue.“Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)Comment
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Bye bye."Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master" - Commissioner Pravin Lal.Comment
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OH WOW, LOOK AT ME CHE
I'M AN UNEMPLOYED ****** WHO DOESN'T KNOW HOW TO CASUALLY MENTION OTHER INDIVIDUALS IN MY POSTS WITHOUT BOLDING IT
TIME TO GO TELL ON ZYLKA!Comment
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"Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master" - Commissioner Pravin Lal.Comment
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Oh, we know at last whose DL Roggan is
"I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
"I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
"I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- DisComment
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IRAN HAS PLENTY OF UNCLOGGED OIL FOR THE USA TO UTILIZE:
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This looks like a sexual pic."I have been reading up on the universe and have come to the conclusion that the universe is a good thing." -- Dissident
"I never had the need to have a boner." -- Dissident
"I have never cut off my penis when I was upset over a girl." -- DisComment
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@ zylka
“Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)Comment
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They only hate France because they're ungrateful and can't do anything themselves. What kind of a sad world is that 
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I don't support attacking Iran at this time, but thinking everything is is just peachy and democratic in Iran is wrongaccording to CIA, Iran is a theocratic republic. I have no idea why anyone should have a problem with it. they even have a women suffrage."I read a book twice as fast as anybody else. First, I read the beginning, and then I read the ending, and then I start in the middle and read toward whatever end I like best." - Gracie AllenComment
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