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  • #136
    GP:

    "Many, many people have a problem with you in terms of your communication."

    So have I with certain people.

    "The point is which will have more effect--the action or the nonaction."

    Indeed. And on Iraq, it is difficult to find any positive consequence apart from Saddam being gone. But a good deal of negative ones.

    "You're not one of our allies. Your country is neutral."

    We are not your allies, but we are no more neutral.

    "Or is it the French continuting their Gaulist seperatism (force de frappe, non-full participation in NATO, etc.)"

    France was on board in gulf war 2, Bosnia and Kosovo.

    "If I decided to do the right thing and it drove you to apoplexy, it would still be the right thing."

    There is as much a problem of style as one of substance. Bush has failed to give a convincing reason for the Iraq adventure. Non-existant Al Qaeda ties, non-existant WMDs, Sadam is bad, remaking the ME - what was it? But an amazing arrogance that anyone opposing an illegal and stupid war is an enemy.

    Well be careful what you say about people, they may just turn out that way.
    “Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)

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    • #137
      Those americans are crazy


      The Bush administration, alarm-ed by intelligence suggesting that al Qaeda operatives in Iran had a role in the May 12 suicide bombings in Saudi Arabia, has suspended once-promising contacts with Iran and appears ready to embrace an aggressive policy of trying to destabilize the Iranian government, administration officials said.


      couple that with the pre-election promises


      A great country strives for great objectives. The two big goals at the center of my agenda are expanding peace and freedom throughout the world, ...




      edit: it actually sounds a lot like that movie " I come in peace"


      In Short

      I Come In Peace combines the basic elements of a cheesy cop movie and a cheesy alien movie to create… a cheesy action movie with cops and aliens. Fans of Dolph Lundgren or B-grade action will get a kick out this film, though.


      Last edited by OneFootInTheGrave; May 25, 2003, 16:40.
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      • #138
        Originally posted by HershOstropoler
        France was on board in gulf war 2, Bosnia and Kosovo.
        No they weren't.
        I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
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        • #139
          Iran's going down, if they don't pull their head's out.
          Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
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          He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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          • #140
            GP: "If we have a Vietnam situation"

            Vietnam in Iraq? Nope. Lebanon, maybe.

            Dino: "No they weren't."

            I count Iran/Iraq as Gulf war 1.
            “Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)

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            • #141
              Not before Saudi.
              No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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              • #142
                Originally posted by HershOstropoler

                There is as much a problem of style as one of substance. Bush has failed to give a convincing reason for the Iraq adventure. Non-existant Al Qaeda ties, non-existant WMDs, Sadam is bad, remaking the ME - what was it? But an amazing arrogance that anyone opposing an illegal and stupid war is an enemy.

                Well be careful what you say about people, they may just turn out that way.
                I was more worried about our guys getting killed. I can live with the pissing contest and the Jewish mothering.

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                • #143
                  "I count Iran/Iraq as Gulf war 1."


                  You mean from 12-15 years ago ?
                  Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                  "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                  He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                  • #144
                    TMM & Sloww: You guys are wierd.
                    I make no bones about my moral support for [terrorist] organizations. - chegitz guevara
                    For those who aspire to live in a high cost, high tax, big government place, our nation and the world offers plenty of options. Vermont, Canada and Venezuela all offer you the opportunity to live in the socialist, big government paradise you long for. –Senator Rubio

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                    • #145
                      There is as much a problem of style as one of substance. Bush has failed to give a convincing reason for the Iraq adventure. Non-existant Al Qaeda ties, non-existant WMDs, Sadam is bad, remaking the ME - what was it? But an amazing arrogance that anyone opposing an illegal and stupid war is an enemy.
                      As long as Iraq stood, we were in no position to threaten Saudi, Syria, or Iran.

                      That's your reason.
                      No, I did not steal that from somebody on Something Awful.

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                      • #146
                        Now just why am I weird?
                        I only try to clarify the time frame.
                        That's not weird.


                        Being a sawbones for a dinosaur, now that's a bit odd.
                        Life is not measured by the number of breaths you take, but by the moments that take your breath away.
                        "Hating America is something best left to Mobius. He is an expert Yank hater.
                        He also hates Texans and Australians, he does diversify." ~ Braindead

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                        • #147
                          "Erm, I thought we were talking about Iran ?
                          Does Iran take a significant chunk of its income from opiates " Are Iran and Afgan different economies like California and Texas.Who drew this damned map a Arab or A Brit?,was there a sign at the border that said U.S troops stop here ,all terrorist please continue.What are the Arabs trading in besides OIl and were does it come from I mean the income..MY pont is santions won't work against Iran since there is other income.Black market fuel weapons,and narcotics ect The
                          The world is a messy place, and unfortunately the messier it gets, the more work we have to do."

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                          • #148
                            Originally posted by Vandal-1
                            "Erm, I thought we were talking about Iran ?
                            Does Iran take a significant chunk of its income from opiates " Are Iran and Afgan different economies like California and Texas.Who drew this damned map a Arab or A Brit?,was there a sign at the border that said U.S troops stop here ,all terrorist please continue.What are the Arabs trading in besides OIl and were does it come from I mean the income..MY pont is santions won't work against Iran since there is other income.Black market fuel weapons,and narcotics ect The
                            I don't understand what you are saying.
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                            • #149
                              Originally posted by DinoDoc
                              TMM & Sloww: You guys are wierd.
                              I never thought we would agree so fully.
                              “Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)

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                              • #150
                                Originally posted by The Mad Monk

                                As long as Iraq stood, we were in no position to threaten Saudi, Syria, or Iran.

                                That's your reason.
                                So it's about a little empire building around the oil?
                                “Now we declare… that the law-making power or the first and real effective source of law is the people or the body of citizens or the prevailing part of the people according to its election or its will expressed in general convention by vote, commanding or deciding that something be done or omitted in regard to human civil acts under penalty or temporal punishment….” (Marsilius of Padua, „Defensor Pacis“, AD 1324)

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