Iran - will we soon face another aggressive act?

[HershOstropoler]

And SA is 3 times the size of texas.

[Az]

, but not a few determined individuals, motivated by their pain.

My heart bleeds for Usama Bin-Laden, and the great grief he had throughout his childhood, being raised up in a poor, working-class neighbourhood, in Ryad, born to a crackhead single-mother.

"Because I am hopeless!"

"Thug life, Boy!"

[The Mad Monk]

Originally posted by DanS
The real plan is to build Iraq up into a swing producer. Iraq and Russia would then be swing producers and the fall of Saudi Arabia wouldn't mean the end of the world economically. Right now, if Saudi Arabia decides to embargo, we're Fvcked with a capital F.

DanS has it. Once we have Iraq back up to speed, we can shut down Saudi. Saudi has been holding the purse strings of Islamic terror for a long, long time. All the money that that been flowing from Saudi to all those extremist groups will stop flowing once the oil does.

We can't do that if Saudi remains "friendly".

[HershOstropoler]

Probably Osama is just misunderstood.

Seriously, it seems to be less a matter of pain rather than anger.

[The Mad Monk]

I'm not talking conquest, I'm talking embargo.

[oedo]

seriously now. we all still don´t know who´s responsible for 9/11. Bin Ladin of course, but no one seems to have a clue who (which goverments) were behind these attacks. I read somewhere that the US admin spent abou 4.000.000 $ to examine the attacks. I don´t know forsure if this is true. but if it were, it would be far less than US officials spend to examine a sperm spot on Monica Lewinski´s dress.
anyone who´s got a link about this fdeel free to post it here. I´m really curious.

the USA can be sure, that all of their allies would help them in their war on terror if they would present a clear and comprehensive link. up to now they only abuse these attacks to blame anyone, who just came into their mind. that´s why so many people are that angry about the Bushies.

[Whaleboy]

It makes one wonder at this stage why such a government would pursue such a politically suicidal, morally idiotic and diplomatically unsound action as this. I find myself doubting the power of money and greed being sufficient to drive men of "government" to such actions. I find myself laughing at the prospect of such actions being taken in the name of patriotism and self-preservation, the former being a fallacy as we all surely know, and the latter being a gross misinterpretation of the tactical situation.

I keep telling myself that history will, as it always has done, judge these actions to be erroneous.

[HershOstropoler]

Dan:

You Dansed that in, did you not...

"Right now, if Saudi Arabia decides to embargo, we're Fvcked with a capital F."

I'm not so sure it would be devastating for us. It would be definately devastating for Saudi Arabia, though.

[The Mad Monk]

Indeed.

[HershOstropoler]

Originally posted by The Mad Monk
I'm not talking conquest, I'm talking embargo.

If you embargo Saudi Arabia, you can bet your ass on having a fundamentalist regime there.

Why would that be so benefecial?

PS: Any why would Europe join an embargo?

[Whaleboy]

"My heart bleeds for Usama Bin-Laden, and the great grief he had throughout his childhood, being raised up in a poor, working-class neighbourhood, in Ryad, born to a crackhead single-mother"

I speak more of the pain and misery in the communities that terrorists come from. Dont judge them by your own economic paramaters, one must also factor in the brotherhood nature of religious unity. The Islamic community, particularly in the middle-eastern nations are in much pain. One can hardly be suprised that terrorism occurs. What is the solution? Hardly to deepen the wound, but to heal it with a better foreign policy.

[OneFootInTheGrave]

And just ot answer to those questions of what should we do?

- first of all you should have rebuilt Afghanistan, and now you or the "western world" has two countries to rebuild...

if we don't focus on that we will have only enemies to kill, still new times bring greater challeneges as Mr Bush said

Our country has faced many tests and accomplished a great deal. But we still have so much to do to make our world more peaceful and America more compassionate that I intend to seek a second term as your President.

Invading Iran would surely make our world more peaceful place or is it the opposite

[GePap]

DanS's plan is singularly dumb.

1. Unless economci growth worldwide becomes stangnant, oil demand will conitnue to grow. It will take years for Iraq to even challenge SA as a suplier of oil.

2. That plan assumes little political problems in Iraq, mainly northern Iraq. That is yet to be seen.

3. The Russians have been acting in concert with OPEC to keep oil prices at a certain level. They do not gain from a glut in the world oil market.

4. US oil companies make billions in SA, and they would not be very keen in losing those contracts, and billion of dollars.

5. The saudis have twice as much oil as Iraq. They are the ones with the largest reserves. As long as the world wants oil, they saudis will be making money. And as long as they have the world largest oil reservesd, bar none, any political upheavals in iraq will send Oil rpices through the roof.

[OneFootInTheGrave]

Originally posted by HershOstropoler
Probably Osama is just misunderstood.

Seriously, it seems to be less a matter of pain rather than anger.

:there it is the Bu****es surely cannot understand where is the guy coming from... actually they seem to have the same goal - both of the parties - the world vs Islam, and Bush might finally accomplish that " Arab Union" goal that so many Islamic fundamentalists strived for, it was only Osama that got lucky and got Bush to support him, there is no better way for reunion than a common enemy .

[The Mad Monk]

The problem the extremist have is not volunteers -- they already have plenty of those. The problem is materiel -- weapons, equipment, training facilities, transportation. Money is the controling factor to their effectiveness. Remove the money, and you remove their power.