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To blame on the jewish people the entire suffering of the local population is laughable. The issue would've been solved 40-50 years ago, if the other countries would've just accepted Israel as a fact.
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Common way of thinking, if everyone just comes around to my way of thinking there will be no problems, but laughable. I don't blame the Jewish people wholey for the suffering of the local people but they certainly have a significant hand in it. -
by doing what? fighting them in 48? the palestinians weren't exactly the victims then, you know.Originally posted by gsmoove23
Common way of thinking, if everyone just comes around to my way of thinking there will be no problems, but laughable. I don't blame the Jewish people wholey for the suffering of the local people but they certainly have a significant hand in it.Comment
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How popular is it?Originally posted by gsmoove23
Will they ever be turned on yourselves? Don't misunderstand, I have never equated Israel with Nazi Germany to this day but if the situation keeps getting worse and the people of Israel become less and less patient without offering any reasonable plans for peace what will the result be. I know how popular the idea of transfer is in Israel today, what next?
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By working towards having a Jewish state in a land already inhabitted to start with. In 48 the Israelis weren't exactly the victims you know. It was not the burden of the arabs to accept Jewish immigrants after the holocaust and somehow I believe that if the times were different and Jews hadn't been actively working to create a Jewish state in Palestine the locals would have accepted a reasonable amount of refugees no problems, as they did in the very beginning of zionist immigration.Comment
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From time to time I read your own papers, so quite popular. Disturbingly so for a western nation.Originally posted by Azazel
How popular is it?
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The European press seemed quite taken with the idea of comparing Israel to Nazi Germany when I was there 2.5 years ago. Things might have changed since then but I don't see why they would.Try http://wordforge.net/index.php for discussion and debate.Comment
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57%, according to the report this thread is based on.Originally posted by Azazel
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"Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master" - Commissioner Pravin Lal.Comment
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Originally posted by gsmoove23
By working towards having a Jewish state in a land already inhabitted to start with.
ok, we'll try an uninhabitted land.
In 48 the Israelis weren't exactly the victims you know. It was not the burden of the arabs to accept Jewish immigrants after the holocaust
The Jewish immigrants of the holocaust only started arriving after the creation of the state. The British didn't allow it.
and somehow I believe that if the times were different and Jews hadn't been actively working to create a Jewish state in Palestine
the locals would have accepted a reasonable amount of refugees no problems, as they did in the very beginning of zionist immigration.
a) If we're not about to create the state, Wtf are we here anyway?
b) "They" didn't accept anyone, since they had no authority, and no central organization what soever, at the time the first jews began to arrive. And the first anti-jewish actions were taken by the sedimentary arabs ( not yet palestinians ) in the 20s, because of a religious issue. ( Or at least, that was the exuse used by Al-Husseini.)
From time to time I read your own papers, so quite popular. Disturbingly so for a western nation.
erm, so, what were the results of the last elections? those guys got like what 5% of the vote?Comment
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Eli: I don't think that the report is correct, since more people would've voted for the people that actually support those policies. Just doesn't make sense, really.Comment
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The National Union et al give the impression that they just want to load all Pals on trucks and send them to Jordan. While in this report people were asked whether they support "encouraging emigration"."Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master" - Commissioner Pravin Lal.Comment
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the national union never gave that impression. It was the *ahem* freedom party.
btw, didn't you want to vote for the national union?
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[QUOTE] Originally posted by Azazel ok, we'll try an uninhabitted land.[QUOTE]
The creation of a Jewish state was never a necessity to anyone but Zionists. Its not an inviteability and it certainly wasn't worth the cost.
One of the main reasons for Jewish terrorism under the British mandate was this prohibition of the British. Plus, the British were not very successful in stopping Jewish immigration.The Jewish immigrants of the holocaust only started arriving after the creation of the state. The British didn't allow it.
Of course, no one would want to just live in Palestine.a) If we're not about to create the state, Wtf are we here anyway?
This is part of the hand Zionists have in the difficulties. Zionists: we must have a Jewish state on this land, Arab inhabitants: WTF!
Forgive me, I consider living side by side with someone who moves into your neighbourhood with no problems and even a good amount of cooperation as accepting. In the 1920s it was quite clear that many Jewish immigrants weren't simply moving in but had greater designs for Palestine.b) "They" didn't accept anyone, since they had no authority, and no central organization what soever, at the time the first jews began to arrive. And the first anti-jewish actions were taken by the sedimentary arabs ( not yet palestinians ) in the 20s, because of a religious issue. ( Or at least, that was the exuse used by Al-Husseini.)
Right and have been incorporated into the current government, while this poll says that 57% are for promoting arab immigration, the inhabitants of Yanun have been pushed out of their homes by settler harrassment and a lack of water and electricity, inhabitants of Hebron continue to leave because of settler harrassment and round the clock curfews to protect the 500 jewish settlers. Meanwhile many mini-transfers happen as a result of building the infamous wall.erm, so, what were the results of the last elections? those guys got like what 5% of the vote?
My point wasn't what is happening now, though I find it disturbing, but what may happen in the future, as we've seen a pretty impressive swing to the right in Israeli politics already.Comment
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The creation of a Jewish state was never a necessity to anyone but Zionists. Its not an inviteability and it certainly wasn't worth the cost.
Tell that to the ~300,000 German Jews who managed to escape in the 30's to Israel.
Tell that to the people on The Ship of the Damned, who were rejected from every country until they had to return to Germany and die in the concentration camps."Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master" - Commissioner Pravin Lal.Comment
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The creation of a Jewish state was never a necessity to anyone but Zionists. Its not an inviteability and it certainly wasn't worth the cost.
Says you.
The vast majority of holocaust survivors made it to Palestine only after the war.One of the main reasons for Jewish terrorism under the British mandate was this prohibition of the British. Plus, the British were not very successful in stopping Jewish immigration.
Since they didn't have a national identity at that point, they hardly bothered.
Forgive me, I consider living side by side with someone who moves into your neighbourhood with no problems and even a good amount of cooperation as accepting. In the 1920s it was quite clear that many Jewish immigrants weren't simply moving in but had greater designs for Palestine.
You want me to tell you of inhabitants of settlements "pushed out" because of palestinian "harrassement" by automatic fire and fatal attack on civilians?
Right and have been incorporated into the current government, while this poll says that 57% are for promoting arab immigration, the inhabitants of Yanun have been pushed out of their homes by settler harrassment and a lack of water and electricity,
inhabitants of Hebron continue to leave because of settler harrassment and round the clock curfews to protect the 500 jewish settlers.
Yes, the palestinians are fleeing. Some Israelis have left Israel too, due to terrorism. ETHNIC CLEANSING!!!! 
Meanwhile many mini-transfers happen as a result of building the infamous wall.
Yes. Palestinians are moving westward INSIDE the wall, to become a part of Israel.
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Oh just annex the territories and be done with it.Christianity: The belief that a cosmic Jewish Zombie who was his own father can make you live forever if you symbolically eat his flesh and telepathically tell him you accept him as your master, so he can remove an evil force from your soul that is present in humanity because a rib-woman was convinced by a talking snake to eat from a magical tree...Comment
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