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ok I'll phone Bush and tell him to stop interfering, sending you money and intervening in the UN for one.
(esp. with some attitudes portrayed by the brave men in blue berrettes, in the other thread.
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now, that would be unfair, wouldn't it? let's leave the UN out of this.
(esp. with some attitudes portrayed by the brave men in blue berrettes, in the other thread. )
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then you have no problem if we where to take what we want , ....Originally posted by gsmoove23
We already annexed the parts of it we wanted.
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History is written by the victors, the problem is while it may seem you are victors you aren't entirely. There are still Palestinians who are pretty successful at putting out their version of things. Call me when you get rid of them.Originally posted by panag
then you have no problem if we where to take what we want , ....
Conquest becomes problematic in the last half of the 20th.
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no , does it , .....Originally posted by gsmoove23
History is written by the victors, the problem is while it may seem you are victors you aren't entirely. There are still Palestinians who are pretty successful at putting out their version of things. Call me when you get rid of them. Conquest becomes problematic in the last half of the 20th.
well at least you cant control the border on the south , ....
some people are coming back in larger numbers then ever , .....
yeah , conquest becomes a problem for some southern states , ......- RES NON VERBA - DE OPRESSO LIBER - VERITAS ET LIBERTAS - O TOLMON NIKA - SINE PARI - VIGLIA PRETIUM LIBERTAS - SI VIS PACEM , PARA BELLUM -
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The Arabs have the oil, but we have the matches.Originally posted by gsmoove23
ok I'll phone Bush and tell him to stop interfering, sending you money and intervening in the UN for one. 
Do you really want us to use the matches?"Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he dreams himself your master" - Commissioner Pravin Lal.Comment
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I suppose so, but the devil is in the details.No. neither can I blame the Zionists. now, we have to reach an agreement and split it. fair enough?
A sense of community can live without a strong national identity. The lack of strong national identity in no way meant that a Palestinian couldn't see the world around him and make choices to work in a concerted effort. In the early 20th Palestinians began to chose to work toward a national identity, contesting British rule and zionist designs.Ahem, how exactly? Why would one bother, if he cannot define himself at a national level, but defines himself at a clan level? It's not that jews were moving into arab villages.
You didn't refute anything, just brought up examples of transfers of Jewish populations that happened after my examples that I don't deny."stay on the subject"? you brought alleged examples of transfer taking place, I refuted them. you, stay on the subject!Comment
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A sense of community can live without a strong national identity. The lack of strong national identity in no way meant that a Palestinian couldn't see the world around him and make choices to work in a concerted effort. In the early 20th Palestinians began to chose to work toward a national identity, contesting British rule and zionist designs.
A sense of community wouldn't bring Xenophobia to jewish immigrants, and guess what? It didn't. It was only after the riots that were about the Wailing wall prayers, that the palestinian identity started to form. before that, it was the sedimentary Falahs against the semi-nomadic Beduins.Comment
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Originally posted by Eli
The Arabs have the oil, but we have the matches.
Do you really want us to use the matches?
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yes , yes , .......
have a nice lightning dayAttached Files- RES NON VERBA - DE OPRESSO LIBER - VERITAS ET LIBERTAS - O TOLMON NIKA - SINE PARI - VIGLIA PRETIUM LIBERTAS - SI VIS PACEM , PARA BELLUM -
- LEGIO PATRIA NOSTRA - one shot , one kill - freedom exists only in a book - everything you always wanted to know about special forces - everything you always wanted to know about Israel - what Dabur does in his free time , ... - in french - “Become an anti-Semitic teacher for 5 Euro only.”
WHY DOES ISRAEL NEED A SECURITY FENCE --- join in an exceptional demo game > join here forum is now open ! - the new civ Conquest screenshots > go see them UPDATED 07.11.2003 ISRAEL > crisis or challenge ?Comment
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A sense of community wouldn't bring Xenophobia to jewish immigrants, and guess what? It didn't. It was only after the riots that were about the Wailing wall prayers, that the palestinian identity started to form. before that, it was the sedimentary Falahs against the semi-nomadic Beduins.
Both quotes are from Tom Segev's "One Palestine Complete"
"In 1920, some forty Arab national associations with approximately three thousand Muslim and Christian members were active in Palestine."Once, an Arab notable in Jerusalem had implored Theodore Herzl, "The world is big enough, there are other, uninhabited lands in which millions of poor jews could be settled.... In the name of God, leave Palestine alone!" That was in 1899. Two years later several leaders of the Arab community sent a petition to their Turkish rulers demanding that the entry of Jews into Palestine be restricted and that they be restricted from purchasing land."Comment
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give "heroes of Israel" a look in depth from HerzogOriginally posted by gsmoove23
A sense of community wouldn't bring Xenophobia to jewish immigrants, and guess what? It didn't. It was only after the riots that were about the Wailing wall prayers, that the palestinian identity started to form. before that, it was the sedimentary Falahs against the semi-nomadic Beduins.
Both quotes are from Tom Segev's "One Palestine Complete"
- RES NON VERBA - DE OPRESSO LIBER - VERITAS ET LIBERTAS - O TOLMON NIKA - SINE PARI - VIGLIA PRETIUM LIBERTAS - SI VIS PACEM , PARA BELLUM -
- LEGIO PATRIA NOSTRA - one shot , one kill - freedom exists only in a book - everything you always wanted to know about special forces - everything you always wanted to know about Israel - what Dabur does in his free time , ... - in french - “Become an anti-Semitic teacher for 5 Euro only.”
WHY DOES ISRAEL NEED A SECURITY FENCE --- join in an exceptional demo game > join here forum is now open ! - the new civ Conquest screenshots > go see them UPDATED 07.11.2003 ISRAEL > crisis or challenge ?Comment
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Not hardly. There were riots and attacks against Jews going back at least 150 years. And while there were times when Jews were able to live in relative harmony with Muslims, albeit generally viewed with contempt, they were often persecuted, attacked and killed. (Although in general, they were probaly better off than their counterparts in Europe. But that's not saying much).Originally posted by elijah
IIRC, the Jews lived in the area that is now Israel for centuries as a minority under a Muslim nation. They lived largely in peace and
Spain? Tell that to the 5000+ jews massacred when Arabs razed the Jewish quarter of Granada in the 11th century. Throughout history, similar pogroms, other attacks against (and forced conversions of) the Jews throughout the arab and muslim world.SpanishLast edited by Edan; May 17, 2003, 23:18."I read a book twice as fast as anybody else. First, I read the beginning, and then I read the ending, and then I start in the middle and read toward whatever end I like best." - Gracie AllenComment
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I take it, then, that you support the right of Jews being allowed to return to places like Hebron?Originally posted by gsmoove23
Not allowing those X thousands of Pals to return home is in itself absolutely wrong, but it allows the existance of Israel and from my own selfish reasons i'm going to support this wrongness.
Well, I can respect the honesty of the statement, but it also puts blame on your shoulders.
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I do. I think anyone should be able to move wherever they want to without an oppressive state stopping them."Beware of the man who works hard to learn something, learns it, and finds himself no wiser than before. He is full of murderous resentment of people who are ignorant without having come by their ignorance the hard way. "
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