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  • Originally posted by chegitz guevara
    In Zion, most people are people of color. In the Matrix, most people are white.
    I noticed that distinction too, but didn't mark the significance of it.

    It might have something to do with the fact the the machines probably wiped out their creators first. Their creators, probably, were from developed nations, as opposed to developing nations. The only people left after the machines first attacked would be those in less civilized areas, generally those not of Western persuasion.

    Wasn't it said somewhere (only seen it once, probably going to see it again tonight) that the Merovingian was like Neo somehow? Both of them had incredible ability or something. I don't remember.
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    • Wasn't it said somewhere (only seen it once, probably going to see it again tonight) that the Merovingian was like Neo somehow?
      That's one theory, that I think is pretty likely.
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      • Originally posted by Lorizael


        I noticed that distinction too, but didn't mark the significance of it.

        It might have something to do with the fact the the machines probably wiped out their creators first. Their creators, probably, were from developed nations, as opposed to developing nations. The only people left after the machines first attacked would be those in less civilized areas, generally those not of Western persuasion.

        Wasn't it said somewhere (only seen it once, probably going to see it again tonight) that the Merovingian was like Neo somehow? Both of them had incredible ability or something. I don't remember.
        No. They started in the middle-east and spread from there. See Episodes 1 and 2 of "The Second Renaisance (sp?)" if you really must know.

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        • Originally posted by DarthVeda


          No. They started in the middle-east and spread from there. See Episodes 1 and 2 of "The Second Renaisance (sp?)" if you really must know.
          Well poo. I've only seen the movies. Thank you.

          And now I remember what was said of the Merovingian (thanks to seeing the movie a second time). His wife said to Neo that her husband was, "once like you."
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          • His wife was really hot, btw!

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            • Broad in the beam tho.
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              • Originally posted by Lancer
                Broad in the beam tho.
                American men are all closet homosexuals. They want to have sex with women who look like teenage boys, except for their breast implants.

                Women are supposed to be rounded and soft!!!!!


                Personally, I liked Link's wife best.
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                • " American men are all closet homosexuals. They want to have sex with women who look like teenage boys, except for their breast implants.

                  Women are supposed to be rounded and soft!!!!!"

                  Whatever, she still had a fat arse.
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                  • Baby got back

                    Originally posted by Lancer
                    Whatever, she still had a fat arse.
                    Oh my god, Becky, look at her butt
                    It is so big
                    She looks like one of those rap guys girlfriends
                    Who understands those rap guys
                    They only talk to her because she looks like a total prostitute, ok?
                    I mean her butt
                    It's just so big
                    I can't believe it's so round
                    It's just out there
                    I mean, it's gross
                    Look, she's just so black

                    I like big butts and I can not lie
                    You other brothers can't deny
                    That when a girl walks in with an itty bitty waste
                    And a round thing in your face
                    You get sprung
                    Wanna pull up front
                    Cuz you notice that butt was stuffed
                    Deep in the jeans she's wearing
                    I'm hooked and I can't stop staring
                    Oh, baby I wanna get with ya
                    And take your picture
                    My homeboys tried to warn me
                    But with that butt you got
                    Me so horny
                    Ooh, rub all of that smooth skin
                    You say you wanna get in my Benz
                    Well use me, use me cuz you ain't that average groupy

                    I've seen them dancin'
                    The hell with romancin'
                    She sweat, wet, got it goin' like a turbo 'Vette

                    I'm tired of magazines
                    saying flat butt's the only thing
                    Take the average black man and ask him that
                    She gotta pack much back, so

                    Fellas (yeah), fellas (yeah)
                    Has your girlfriend got the butt (hell yeah)
                    Well shake it, shake it, shake it, shake it, shake that healthy butt
                    Baby got back

                    (LA face with Oakland booty)

                    I like'em round and big
                    And when I'm throwin' a gig
                    I just can't help myself
                    I'm actin like an animal
                    Now here's my scandal

                    I wanna get you home
                    And ugh, double ugh, ugh
                    I ain't talkin' bout Playboy
                    Cuz silicone parts were made for toys
                    I wannem real thick and juicy
                    So find that juicy double
                    Mixalot's in trouble
                    Beggin' for a piece of that bubble
                    So I'm lookin' at rock videos
                    Watchin' these bimbos walkin' like hoes
                    You can have them bimbos
                    I'll keep my women like Flo Jo
                    A word to the thick soul sistas
                    I wanna get with ya
                    I won't cus or hit ya
                    But I gotta be straight when I say I wanna ****
                    Til the break of dawn
                    Baby, I got it goin on
                    A lot of pimps won't like this song
                    Cuz them punks like to hit it and quit it
                    But I'd rather stay and play
                    Cuz I'm long and I'm strong
                    And I'm down to get the friction on

                    So ladies (yeah), ladies (yeah)
                    If you wanna role in my Mercedes (yeah)
                    Then turn around
                    Stick it out
                    Even white boys got to shout
                    Baby got back

                    (LA face with the Oakland booty)

                    Yeah baby
                    When it comes to females
                    Cosmo and got nothin to do with my selection
                    36-24-36
                    Only if she's 5'3"

                    So your girlfriend rolls a Honda
                    Playin' workout tapes by Fonda
                    But Fonda ain't got a motor in the back of her Honda
                    My anaconda don't want none unless you've got buns hon
                    You can do side bends or sit-ups, but please don't lose that butt
                    Some brothers wanna play that hard role
                    and tell you that the butt need to go
                    So they toss it and leave it
                    And I pull up quick to retrieve it
                    So Cosmo says you're fat
                    Well I ain't down with that
                    Cuz your waste is small and your curves are kickin'
                    And I'm thinkin' bout stickin'
                    To the beanpole dames in the magazines
                    You ain't it Miss Thang
                    Give me a sista I can't resist her
                    Red beans and rice didn't miss her
                    Some knucklehead tried to dis
                    Cuz his girls were on my list
                    He had game but he chose to hit 'em
                    And pulled up quick to get with 'em
                    So ladies if the butt is round
                    And you wanna triple X throw down
                    Dial 1-900-mixalot and kick them nasty thoughts
                    Baby got back
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                      • Originally posted by Kaak
                        because they don't know. They don't think the matrix is that old. Also, I think it is important for you to consider that during that time, they are also freeing people from the matrix, the anomolies. It is impossible for their to be a matrix in a matrix BECAUSE THEY SAID IN THE MOVIE THE ONLY WAY THE MATRIX WOULD WORK IS IF THERE WAS CHOICE. that would eliminate choice, and the matrix would fail. And you are wrong about neo only seeing code as he understands it. When they are in the core network, it is different than the rest of the matrix, yet he can see the code; even if it is encrypted and he can't understand it...
                        How would they not know that Zion had been destroyed six times and was rebuilt by 23 people each time if it occurred in the "real world?"

                        The whole idea of "choice" was an illusion. Everyone has a purpose. That point was knocked into our heads for the entire movie. The battle between choice and purpose.

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                        • The whole idea of "choice" was an illusion. Everyone has a purpose. That point was knocked into our heads for the entire movie. The battle between choice and purpose.
                          I agree. Purpose is one of the most important concepts in the movie, IMO.
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                          • Did Persephone allow the Merovingian to find out what she had done just so that she could see the look on his face (and create a twenty minute fight scene), or was there some purpose in that?
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                            • How would they not know that Zion had been destroyed six times and was rebuilt by 23 people each time if it occurred in the "real world?"
                              Now...

                              This is why I'm waiting to see the movie.

                              How do we know we are not in a matrix ourselves?

                              How could we tell if we are inside of a matrix?

                              What is this 'real' world you speak of?
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                              • If Neo had fought "agents" in this one, they would have been treated like they were at the end of the first movie.
                                hmm, Neo did actually. And it was nothing like in Matrix 1. Sure, the agents were "upgrades", but Neo seemed to be downgraded.
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