Diplomatic contact with the Data Angels

[Illuminatus]

Considering your last message, we have come to the following offer. This will allow us also to take from Morgan Industries possibility to build PEG by them. This needs still to be agreed upon with Spartans, but we will conduct talks with them trying to reach agreement as soon as possible.

1. Gaians transfer in year 2148 (the next Gaian turn) pre-accepted
- Doctrine: Mobility
- Doctrine: Loyality
to Data Angels

2. Data Angels exchange with Spartan Federation:
- Doctrine: Loyality
for:
- Doctrine: Flexibility
- Ethical Calculus
which would be effective in the year 2149

3. Data Angels transfer:
- Doctrine: Flexibility
- Ethical Calculus
to Gaian Union in the year 2153 or earlier. Spartans will be given a condition, that this trade with them can go only if they will not embargo both techs beyond 2153, effectively Gaian Union will receive both techs in 2154 or earlier. Both Doctrine: Flexibility and Ethical Calculus are very valuable and Spartans realize it very well. We will try to do our best.

4. Very crucial point for us (Data Angels) also:
If Spartan Federation agrees to trade both Doctrine: Flexibility and Ethical Calculus to Data Angels and forward it to other factions no later than 2153, then Gaian Union forfeits its right to build Command Nexus and allows Spartan Federation to complete this Secret Project.
It is needed for Data Angels to protect our credibility and also good relations with Spartan Federation. We also think that guarantee to Spartan Federation of their completion of Command Nexus may be crucial in obtaining both Doctrine: Flexibility and Ethical Calculus and possibility to forward it to Gaian Union in or before 2153. If we guarantee Command Nexus to Spartans, we will not mention Gaian ability to build it, but we wish to have your guarantee in return. Data Angels honour is at stake here. Please understand this.

5. We would be interested in exchanging:
- Social Psych
for:
- Technology of choice
with the Gaian Union, as you have already proposed. We are open for further discussion regarding this.
IT Mart

Sorry for commenting on this only now, however, if you need guarantee, you can freely offer guarantee in our name (we decided not to build it, indeed we would be finished next turn it if we wanted to), and if you need more incentive, you can add guarantee we won't build CDF either (we also declined from attempting to build it).
Also, if there is any possibility for Doctrine: Flexibility to be transmitted to us as early as possible, we would be grateful if you can explore it. Yang has gone on a quiet build up of impact units, and Flexibility is needed to help our defense/probing efforts, which have shown useful for both of our three factions.
Regarding your fifth proposition, I will notify the council of this - we are quite stretched in our manpower resources this week, and we may not reply with our proposal for couple of days. We apologize for this.

My reply.

[binTravkin]

Good work Illuminatus!

I appreciate that you understood how good this deal is if only all sides sign it!

[Illuminatus]

To Gaian Union,

We thank you for the response to our proposal and questions. Presently we are corresponding with Spartans regarding Doctrine Flexibility and Ethical Calculus. It appears that we will be able to forward Doctrine Flexibility to you much sooner than we expected, although Ethical Calculus may take a bit longer time. In this regard, if Gaian Union forwards yet in this mission year 2148 both Doctrine Mobility and Doctrine Loyality to us pre-accepted, we expect to be able to forward to you Doctrine Flexibility in MY 2149, which you will receive in MY 2150. This is even sooner than expected date from our research. Ethical Calculus may take some longer time, but at the present moment we cannot say about any specific date. Since you indicated the threat which Human Hive poses to other factions and urgent need of Doctrine Flexibility, I think that it may be beneficial to proceed in this way. Furthermore, since Gaian Union is in war with Human Hive, and would forward to us two technologies in advance, which we will greatly appreciate because of your trust towards Data Angels, we consider an additional aid to Gaian Union to help your war effort. We will inform you shortly about details.

IT Mart

We thank you for your generosity, and the turn is cuurently in Gaian hands, and the techs are being transferred as I speak.

To Gaian Union,

We have received the 2148 turn without the technologies Doctrine Loyality and Doctrine Mobility. In this case the possibility of forwarding Doctrine Flexibility to Gaian Union in 2149 will be delayed one more year or possibly more, if Spartan talks fail. What is current position of the Gaian Union towards the proposed exchange, Doctrine Loyality and Doctrine Mobility for Doctrine Flexibility and Ethical Calculus?

IT Mart

I opened presend turn, and we sent them Doctine: Mobility, not preaccepted? Why did Ouro say we agree, if A) there was no talk here about it and B) CT didn't send them preaccepted techs? Just after they commended us for our trust this happened. What and why?

[Chaos Theory]

Hell, didn't remember. I wonder if it's too late to correct the turn.

[Illuminatus]

Hi,
This is a private message, outside the official channels.
One of the key issues in the deal we are discussing is not allowing Yang to complete the Command Nexus. In your recent post on eventis you wrote that Hive will complete it in 6 turns. My question is important in this that we will trade Loyality with Spartans and need to decide on some details about it.
Do you have impression or maybe know if Yang used a crawler to speed up Command Nexus completion in the last two turns? What is his mineral production in that base?
I will appreciate answer to these questions or one of them, if you cannot reveal some infiltration data.
Thanks,
Marcin

I believe I can answer him this question, if no one opposes to do so. I replied him that I will make the reply in 12 hours. What do you say? I would answer him all his questions - it won't divulge anything important to them and will build trust with them. Although I wonder about what details are they deciding about.

[Chaos Theory]

Go ahead and divulge the information. IIRC, Yang has not speeded his SP production with a crawler recently, and the base's mineral output we can of course determine.

[Illuminatus]

Hi. I looked at data and here is what we know. Hive has not yet hurried CN. The Leader's Horde is name of the base producing it. It currently produces 11 minerals per turn. It has accumulated 38/120 minerals. However, Hive will this turn (actually, because of turn order, it alread has produced it) produce a simple supply crawler (21/18 minerals, Hive was also producing CN but AI redirected production some turns ago and this are carry over minerals from it). Suffice it to say that Leader's Horde is two tiles apart and roaded - so you should take in account that supply crawler is very likely added to accumulated minerals. Glad to help.
-Illu

Sent.

[binTravkin]

What is going on tech trade then?

Has it only been delayed, I mean - Is agreement stated above still in force (just with +1 MY to each date) ?

[Illuminatus]

To Gaian Union,

We have received Doctrine Flexibility from Spartan Federation, as we agreed previously with them without any embargo. Thus the Gaian Union will receive Doctrine Flexibility during your next turn. We will post it pre-accepted yet this MY 2149. We hope this will significantly improve your war efforts against the Human Hive. We wish you the best.

We further attempt to negotiate the best deal on Ethical Calculus, however Spartans are very tough negotiators. I cannot presently say anything more specific, as we have not yet reached any mutually acceptable terms. I can say however, that we continue to have good relations, and as they appear also improving, with the Spartan Federation, which is a good sign.

I will post soon more information on development of events which interests Gaian Union.

IT Mart

[Illuminatus]

We do have to agree that the biggest threat presented to each faction on planet is Morgan Industries. Regardless of our current/future relations with them, they are the biggest and most immediate threat to our survival. This is why I simultanuously suggest this pact to you and High Council. Although no direct actions against Morgan is required from any of our respective factions, we should share our intelligence data on him between us, as well as our hypothesis about their future actions. We would establish a databank regarding Morgan activities. We can both contribute by adding data about technologies that are in ther possesion (like their recent aquisitions of Mobility and Flexibility) and other possible data. Gaian Union can also provide you with data on their relations with Yang, since we have infiltrated his networks (the fact that these two faction have good relations is concerning). We would provide each other with new info as soon as we discover it. Terms are open for proposal and negotiations. What do you say?

Proposed to Angels. I think this is a good idea since a) Morgans are obviously our enemy b) we improve relations by cooperation with Angels -> this opens new opportunities to do so c) we increase trust between each other and get them used to work with us an believe us d) we will get their perspective and knowledge about Morgan. What do you think?

[binTravkin]

Well, you should have made a poll first!

But I'm for it regardless of your undemocratical decision!

[Illuminatus]

simultanuously suggest this pact to you and High Council. - I said I suggested it to them and Council. I did not imply that we already agreed. However sentiment on both their and our side indicated to me that something like this does not need to be discussed - indeed I expect they will be interested in it. BTW, why don't you participate in diplomacy more? Volunteer as ambassador.

[binTravkin]

Come into ICQ:
339-500-616

BTW, why don't you participate in diplomacy more? Volunteer as ambassador.

time, time..

[Illuminatus]

The Angels do not seem to have time either . You would perfectly serve as a new, seemingly neutral face in diplomacy.

[binTravkin]

You would perfectly serve as a new, seemingly neutral face in diplomacy.

To keep my neutrality I will continue to appear as Lord of Progress and speak in the name of Gaian scientists and other talented people..