Diplomatic contact with the Data Angels

[Ouro_827]

OK.... now I understand. Good job!

[Illuminatus]

job. We should be prepared for their reaction when they realise we traded commlinks to both factions. (Spartans will be well surprised when they are saluted by Angels, and Angels will be also surprised when they learn we traded their freq to Spartans too).

[Ouro_827]

I know it can be a tad confusing... but still! What ought they expect from us? I just wonder how close those two will become?

[binTravkin]

Hehe, we're damn close to Morgan in our nature..

[Illuminatus]

indeed. Why sell it to best competitor? Sell it to both competitors

[Ouro_827]

Morgan would be licking boots. And not running through the trees naked while making the deal!

[Hydro]

Gentlemen,

Selling any comm link to the AI or especially a human player is a terrible idea. You instantly lose the ability to trade tech from one faction to the other since then the monopoly is gone. Information is power, my friends, as is the power to keep your opponents in the dark.

But, since I’m all alone on this I’ll slink back into my corner.

Hydro

[Ouro_827]

It isn't so much that we don't agree Hydro, but did you notice the clause that the Spartans wanted for their tech trades? Dunno how often you are here, but they wanted a TWENTY year ban on tech trading after they traded it to us. Plus, it helps our friendships along....

[Chaos Theory]

The Hive has met everyone anyway, so everyone can buy everyone else's commlink if Yang will speak with them. It's too late to try to keep everyone isolated.

Furthermore, we can't act like we haven't met others, thanks to the ability to pull up a trade window with human factions we haven't yet met.

[Illuminatus]

Originally posted by Hydro
Gentlemen,

Selling any comm link to the AI or especially a human player is a terrible idea. You instantly lose the ability to trade tech from one faction to the other since then the monopoly is gone. Information is power, my friends, as is the power to keep your opponents in the dark.

But, since I’m all alone on this I’ll slink back into my corner.

Hydro

We know, Hydro, but it is nice to see you. However, Spartans have good relations with Hive, and they can purchase it from thme. Furthermore, they both knew - Angels know we had commlink of Spartans, and Spartans knew we had contact with Angels. If we have refused to do so, we would worsen relations with both. I really don't see what else we could do. "I am sorry, but we don't want to trade you the commlink." - to both of them?

[Hydro]

The Gaian response to an inquiry for a comm channel could be: I am not authorized to divulge that data at this time, or some other brush off. Keep in mind that they have no reason within the game to know we have these channels. Moreover, if they want it they can pay – dearly, and not some measly tens of credits. The same with the Angels.

It is possible they could get the channels from Yang. But, you are assuming the Spartans aren’t lying when about their treaties to gain advantage. If Yang is ambivalent to hostile he’ll tell them to bug off. Ditto for the Angels.

If it said-and-done then there is no point discussing the matter further.

Hydro

[Illuminatus]

There is a game mechanism which allows to tell whenever we meet someone. Moreover, Hive probably does have treaty with Sparta, and Sparta is trolling around in it's rover - they can buy it from him for 25 credits.
Also, why did you not make your point earlier? I don't know if should we cancel the deal now. If you wish, we can have a poll about it.

[Illuminatus]

Seems Eventis is down, for a longer time. Anyway, there are several important issues. Spartans can provide us with Doctrine: Flexibility - so we can get you both techs, Flex and Mobility, if you agree. You would be able to assist us in our new research beeline by using your accumulated points then (details will follow later). However, to cut deal with Spartans for Doctrine: Flexiblity, we will need two informations from you: 1) What is your best estimation of MY of completion of your current research? (in order to know how long trade embargo we can accept and be able to trade it to you before you finish your research) 2) How many energy credits do you have available currently (rounded estimation is enough) for trade (to assist us in barter for Flexiblity and other techs we can later give to you)?
We would appreciate fast response, if possible. Also send your reply to both me, Ouro and CT, in order for message to be received as fast as possible.
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Sent to GeoModder. Note: Eventis is down, and it seems to be serious this time.

[Ouro_827]

In short: Spartans are negotiating with us as well about trading Doc:Flex,
but they ask a ridiculous embargo time.

Just recieved from Geo! He asked you Illum to check your PMs, and he seemed irritated with the Spartans....

[Illuminatus]

Yes, that is a pretty good summary, Spartans are trying to sell us both the same technologies ( I wonder if they are copying us ). I suggested Geo that we pool our resources in future negotiations with Spartans for Flexibility, and mentioned as well that they offered us Flex without embargo for a ridiculously large sum. Perhaps we should suggest a full temporary pact in future diplomatic negotiatons with Spartans, in order to avoid this?