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  • #76
    Both my assumptions about the comlink?

    Lord Illuminatus, is the Union at this point still eager to start negotiating again over Industrial Automation when we're so close to an agreement?

    But to ask a more specific question, which faction's comlink are of interest to the Gaian Union? If it is one we own, a new negotiation can be started of course.

    Also, both proposals (the Industrial Automation exchange and the Joint Research Treaty) are proposed to the DataJacks as they are now, can you disclose to me how much time the Union has left before forwarding their Administration? Or does the Union not plan to transfer their scouts in current year?

    InfoTrader GeoModder
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    • #77
      Lord Illuminatus,

      This counter proposal is quite tempting I must say, and it opens vistas for our first future joint research project.

      Am I correct in assuming then that a Spore Launcher, a Scout Rover and Biogenetics will become Angel property in return for Industrial Automation? Or are there even more Gaian scouts in the area then we know of at this moment.

      Also, the presence of at least two Gaian scouts in our territory indicated that more then one Unity Foil is in your possession, therefore our vision that one easily could be shared with the Unions ' new friends.

      As for the comlink, is this an inquiry for another negotiation, or is the Gaian Union thinking of renegotiating the earlier proposal?

      Regards,
      InfoTrader GeoModder

      1.Hey, they agree with us giving SL + Rover + BioGen!!

      2.Also we must make them know that we only have 1 foil, so it's essential to our continued scouting efforts!

      3.we must make them know that we have 2 scouts and both will be trasfered, thus leaving their conti without our presence, which I think is GREAT for them and automatically gives a guarantee that we wont be popping their pods!

      4.Ask them for human commlink in list of priority (descending):
      Morgan (he's powerful with those 3 SPs started)
      Sparta
      or AI (if they don't have any human commlink):
      Uni (techtechtech)
      Pks

      and do not ask for Hive, as we're likely to get it on ourselves!

      5.About that first statement:
      Lord Illuminatus, is the Union at this point still eager to start negotiating again over Industrial Automation when we're so close to an agreement?
      We're just trying to make the best deal for both of our factions!

      So, Illuminatus. talk to them another time and answer on their questions with sweet notices about all those cute things which they receive upon having both our scouts transfered!
      -- What history has taught us is that people do not learn from history.
      -- Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.

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      • #78
        "GeoModder"Both my assumptions about the comlink?

        Lord Illuminatus, is the Union at this point still eager to start negotiating again over Industrial Automation when we're so close to an agreement?
        At the time, we thought you will turn down the offer. I do not see why would we need to start negotiating again, if we are so close to an agreement.
        But to ask a more specific question, which faction's comlink are of interest to the Gaian Union? If it is one we own, a new negotiation can be started of course.

        Also, both proposals (the Industrial Automation exchange and the Joint Research Treaty) are proposed to the DataJacks as they are now, can you disclose to me how much time the Union has left before forwarding their Administration? Or does the Union not plan to transfer their scouts in current year?
        The sooner we agree about the trade, the faster we can transfer control of units. I do not see any reason why we couldn't transfer units this turn, unless you want otherwise. I must consult with the rest of High Council then. It is quite eager to hear if we ahve reached consensus about the trade. We can continue further discusiions then.

        -Lord Administrator Illuminatus
        "GeoModder"Very well, under the assumption that under no circumstance the High Council is willing to exchange a Transport (or Unity) Foil and Biogenetics for Industrial Automation and a comlink the Data Angels can only settle for the Gaian proposal then. These are hard negotiations for free thinking minds as the Angels have it seems.

        Again, the Gaian offer as it is now has been proposed to the DataJacks. If a majority agrees we will of course wish to receive the units proposed this year if possible, even if only for seeing a substantial part of the deal be done already.

        Is there no further news on the deadline of Gaian turn or plans on when to forward it? As you may understand it is hard to decide if no-one is available for voting at this moment.

        InfoTrader GeoModder
        [quote]"Illuminatus"
        "GeoModder"Very well, under the assumption that under no circumstance the High Council is willing to exchange a Transport (or Unity) Foil and Biogenetics for Industrial Automation and a comlink the Data Angels can only settle for the Gaian proposal then. These are hard negotiations for free thinking minds as the Angels have it seems.

        Again, the Gaian offer as it is now has been proposed to the DataJacks. If a majority agrees we will of course wish to receive the units proposed this year if possible, even if only for seeing a substantial part of the deal be done already.

        Is there no further news on the deadline of Gaian turn or plans on when to forward it? As you may understand it is hard to decide if no-one is available for voting at this moment.

        InfoTrader GeoModder
        "GeoModder"Lord Illuminatus,

        Please forward our thanks to the High Council for their patience. I can personally ensure you that news if the proposal is accepted, declined or decision postponed will be sent in time.

        InfoTrader GeoModder
        Last edited by Illuminatus; September 14, 2004, 09:35.
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        • #79
          What is this supposed to mean?
          -- What history has taught us is that people do not learn from history.
          -- Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.

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          • #80
            Some updates . They don't agree, they are apparently polling about it. I hope they accept. I am not so sure if it is smart to tell them we have one foil - perhaps we should say one of our 'foils' has been sunk by an IoD. (I suggested that our foil is heading to east ). They've already been let known that we have only two scouts.
            Also, I will propose this order of comlinks:
            Morgan, Uni, Pks (leaving out Sparta should confuse them ). They are probably offering Hive comlink, IMHO.
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            • #81
              Excellent!

              Further on it'd be very nice if Lords acted more independently as you did now, because it speeds up the game and doesn't let others lose interest - I think endless debate is much more boring than a small centralisation of power for a quick and decisive action..
              -- What history has taught us is that people do not learn from history.
              -- Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.

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              • #82
                Originally posted by binTravkin
                What is this supposed to mean?
                Our latest correspondence - if it looked strange atfirst, it is because html codings on Eventis are different. It should look better now.
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                • #83
                  Oh and please use This link and register yourself. Drogue should authorise you for diplomacy forum later.
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                  • #84
                    Originally posted by binTravkin
                    Excellent!

                    Further on it'd be very nice if Lords acted more independently as you did now, because it speeds up the game and doesn't let others lose interest - I think endless debate is much more boring than a small centralisation of power for a quick and decisive action..
                    I hope Ouro can act like this because college starts in less then two weeks. I doubt I will be very active then. Also, are you reading endless debates between smacksim and Chaos on General forum ? The strange fact is that they are basicaly both right .
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                    • #85
                      Oh and please use This link and register yourself. Drogue should authorise you for diplomacy forum later.
                      And now give me an exact link, otherwise I can't find the right thread!
                      -- What history has taught us is that people do not learn from history.
                      -- Programming today is a race between software engineers striving to build bigger and better idiot-proof programs, and the Universe trying to produce bigger and better idiots. So far, the Universe is winning.

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                      • #86
                        You won't be able to find the right forum until I authorise you. Can't get to Eventis at work, but should be able to do it in about 2 hours when I get home
                        Smile
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                        But he would think of something

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                        • #87
                          Good work Illuminatus. I can't quite make complete sense of the deliberations, but it looks like you are thinking we will get a commlink out of them anyways? And no foil? That would be more than fair.
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                          • #88
                            binTravkin has been authorised on Eventis.
                            Smile
                            For though he was master of the world, he was not quite sure what to do next
                            But he would think of something

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                            • #89
                              Just to make sure... the ball's in their court, right?

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                              • #90
                                EDIT: Mispost
                                Last edited by Ouro_827; September 14, 2004, 20:02.

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