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  • Hats off for the excellent map!!

    As to what to do now, I'd say the difference between sooner or later will be better logistics. Build Transports, Killers, and Spies everywhere and organize chains or launch on completion, whichever looks best. And I would float a big Navy to clear the seas before the Transports. If you think an Air Wing will be necessary, you can have Stealth in a few turns by shifting the sliders to 50% Science. Stealth Fighters will be of little help -v- cities, probably, but could be important -v- counterattacking Bombers.

    About what you were thinking I expect. And, folk have been playing five turns; not much time, but you may be able to roll up the Chin and get the Invasion effort going full throat -v- the Mongols. Good luck!! This looks like fun!!

    Monk
    so long and thanks for all the fish

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    • Originally posted by Six Thousand Year Old Man
      Any suggestions? How many turns are we playing for, now?

      BTW, did you guys like the map? I was quite proud of it at the time (last November??).
      Suggestions -- the forces in China N should easily handle China S.

      I think that We have Near Mongolia (the isles close by) and Outer Mongolia (their home land -- pun attempted.)

      Agreed that any activity with Near Mongolia should be aimed with tech safety in mind. Probably a blitz or even just raze the little cities.

      As for Outer Mongolia, I was thinking of intiializing the ship chain by sending out Aegis (later thinking added added BB), with an Aegis & 2 transports per 8 spaces along, setting up a chain to their mainland.

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      Nice map -- serious crimp in the beginning for those of us who don't black click (and since I started off, I didn't have to worry about that.
      Those with lower expectations face fewer disappointments

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      • Picked a good time to return.

        I'll be able to take my turn after the STYOM, because I finally have internet access again.
        Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
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        • Are we permitted to launch a space ship?

          That would seem the quickest way to finish at this point in time.
          Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
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          • Originally posted by Ben Kenobi
            Are we permitted to launch a space ship?

            That would seem the quickest way to finish at this point in time.
            This was the second post...
            Forgot the most important stipulation - win must be by conquest, of course.
            That was a looong time ago, but the third poster was...you, Ben.

            Also, re-reading the rules, city bribe was taboo until Robotics. Hope that was followed; surely it was.

            Monk
            so long and thanks for all the fish

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            • Well, I can see some fleets driving towards the Mongol homeland.

              I agree with leaving the mongol colonies to rot on the vine, by crushing the Mongol homeland. Such action also cripples their nascent Spaceship ambitions.
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              • Just in case any of you were wondering if I was actually playing this...

                It's 1937, and the Chinese are down to one city (which I didn't see on the map, thus leaving me stuck with some annoying Partisans that were supposed to vanish after I captured their "last" city).

                The Mongols have 45 cities still - I have been capturing their outposts in violation of my own expressed strategic preference (homeland first) because:

                a) They're closer, and I want to capture something before my 5 turns are up;
                b) They're closer, and have been sending ships full of units, possibly spies, to our adjacent lands;
                c) They're closer, and logistically it makes more sense to attack them than to send a fleet of Transports (escorts or no) across several turns worth of open ocean. The Mongols have demonstrated the use of Submarines a couple of times already; and
                d) They're closer.

                2 more years to follow before I upload the save.
                "I'm a guy - I take everything seriously except other people's emotions"

                "Never play cards with any man named 'Doc'. Never eat at any place called 'Mom's'. And never, ever...sleep with anyone whose troubles are worse than your own." - Nelson Algren
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                • ...well, okay, since they are closer and all....

                  Monk
                  so long and thanks for all the fish

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                  • @STYOM

                    Your strategical choice looks wise
                    Aux bords mystérieux du monde occidental

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                    • Relentlessly tightening the noose...

                      1934: Cannae captured from Chinese, 13 g taken. City renamed to Cannae C.
                      Many build orders changed.

                      7 units destroyed by Chinese and Mongols during the inter-turn period.

                      I note that there are a lot of undefended cities in our empire. Given that the Mongols can grab spaceship techs just by walking into a city, defenders are given priority in the build queues.

                      1935: Turin (Chinese) destroyed. Kazan (Mongol) captured and renamed Kazan M.

                      3 units lost in inter-turn period.

                      1936: Issus (Mongol) destroyed. Emissaries rebuffed. Kazan, Cannae (Mongol) captured netting 247 and 127 g, Prague (Mongol) revolts for 1336 g, 76 g back. Karakorum (Mongol) revolts for 2071 g, 84 back. Cremona (Mongol) revolts for 3803 g, 156 back.

                      Fighter planes launched from a brand new carrier sink Mongol transport loaded with 9 units. Probably all spies

                      1 unit lost in inter-turn period.

                      1937: Macao, Yangchow, Capua, Hangchow (Chinese) captured. Issus (Mongol) revolts for 1154 g, 55 g back.

                      3 units lost in inter-turn period.


                      1938: Some Caravans belatedly delivered last turn - Stealth discovered. Researching Future Tech.

                      1939: Kaifeng captured, Chinese eliminated, 348 g taken.
                      I think I'm required to stop now.

                      Some notes:
                      -Transport at 199, 33 - heading for Capua.
                      -Transport at 194, 38 - heading for Nishapur/Shangtu via Capua.3
                      -Fleet located between 120,72 and 93, 63 - heading for Genoa and Pisa.
                      -ships at 196,74 and 191,65 - heading for Dublin and Kashgar.
                      -The ships near Basra (35, 125) and all new units in the original home islands are heading for Basra/Gorgon's Lair. Once taken, I was intending to island hop to Aleppo, Milan and Venice and leave the large island to the east of there to wither on the vine. It could probably be mopped up with Spies.
                      -I had been moving units Trading Post>Londinium>Galen and northeast from there, towards the Mongols.

                      The Mongols are researching Plastics. We have all 88 techs, they have 76. It looks like they're still missing Laser and Nuclear Power as prerequites to get Superconductor. So, unless we're careless and let them steal it, it'll be several turns before the Mongols can start building Modules. Lots of time for our fleets to arrive.
                      "I'm a guy - I take everything seriously except other people's emotions"

                      "Never play cards with any man named 'Doc'. Never eat at any place called 'Mom's'. And never, ever...sleep with anyone whose troubles are worse than your own." - Nelson Algren
                      "A single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic." - Joseph Stalin (attr.)

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                      • The save:
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                        "I'm a guy - I take everything seriously except other people's emotions"

                        "Never play cards with any man named 'Doc'. Never eat at any place called 'Mom's'. And never, ever...sleep with anyone whose troubles are worse than your own." - Nelson Algren
                        "A single death is a tragedy, a million deaths is a statistic." - Joseph Stalin (attr.)

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                        • Wonderful.

                          I'll get cracking tonight so that I can finish before I have to work tomorrow!

                          Taking the save.
                          Scouse Git (2) La Fayette Adam Smith Solomwi and Loinburger will not be forgotten.
                          "Remember the night we broke the windows in this old house? This is what I wished for..."
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                          • Starting the game...

                            Soft Fundy? My favourite.

                            Adjust all cities to celebrate.

                            Sell off all useless Libraries, Universities and police stations.

                            Einsteins become coin collectors.

                            We now have 10K plus gold.
                            4100 gold revenue a turn.

                            Purchase all white goods that have some shields on them.

                            Purchase two carriers, we don't have enough!

                            Looks like all clear.


                            Turn 1 1940:

                            37 cities celebrate.

                            Now making 6K revenue, 4700 Profit, up from 2600 profit.

                            Incite revolt in Gorgon's Lair
                            Incite revolt in Basra

                            Buying lots of transports to complete our vast shipchains.

                            I'm almost caught up to Gorgon's Lair for the chains.

                            Turn 2: 1941

                            Massive Mongol fleet demonstration near 90,56
                            Mongols discover Nuclear Fission

                            1 transport sunk

                            Mongols begin construction of Manhattan Project

                            11 destroyers sighted!

                            Kerman bribed.

                            4 of Mongol destroyers sunk by our AEGIS. Everyone is rallying around vet Carrier for protection.

                            Dispatched another Carrier, but I will need more to make Carrier chains up to this point, so that I can fly Stealth Fighters.

                            Galen-Aleppo shipchain constructed. I'll be using this chain to take all the Mongol central archipelago

                            Beef up Carrier production, and shipchains, continue progress towards Mongol homeland

                            Turn 3: 1942

                            Mongol fleet fails to sink carrier near 90,56 :dance;
                            8 destroyers sunk to 1 AEGIS cruiser.

                            Mongols have 2 subs plus normal cruiser near Rouen.

                            Mongols fail to recapture Kerman.

                            Sink another destroyer plus sub.
                            Beefing up defenses of Stealth fighters to take out submarines and cruise missiles for the cruisers.

                            Cunaxa stormed.

                            That gives us 2 cities on the Melbourne Island.

                            Aleppo taken
                            Milan taken
                            Just fail to capture Venice.

                            Counterattack the big Mongol fleet of destroyers.

                            Sink 5 destroyers.

                            Use bomber trick to defend transports, where bombers after attacking have transports floated beneath them.

                            Turn 4: 1943

                            Mongols build the Manhattan project
                            Mongols research Nuclear Power.

                            Turin captured.
                            Venice captured.

                            Continue to press onwards to the Mongol homelands.

                            Turn 5: 1944:

                            Mongols continue to press against Rouen. Sink patrolling AEGIS with sub and cruiser.
                            Mongols cluster around hovering Stealth Bomber protecting 3 transports.

                            Mongol fighter knocks out helicopter near Naples.

                            Up to 5.4K profit now.

                            Paratroopers capture Naples.

                            Incite Revolt in Ormuz.

                            Consolidate forces near Melbourne and Cremona.

                            AEGIS destroy defenses of Dublin

                            Transport lands, captures Dublin
                            Bribe Kashgar
                            Destroy Sidney
                            Capture Capua

                            Bump into Mongol fleet at 31,79

                            Take refuge using Bomber trick, but I will need to clear out the Mongol fleet here before I can make progress.

                            Now, for the other battle area, bombers take out 1 cruiser, 2 destroyers. 1 mongol AEGIS coming as reinforcements.

                            Carrier chain set up. You will now be able to reinforce this area with stealth fighers and bombers.

                            Basra should be bribable assuming the Mongols do not find the transport with the troops, and should mark the first invasion of the Mongol homeland.

                            I've left you plenty of cash, but I rushbuilt some carriers near the battlezones, where I thought they should be put, the rest of the cash, 8.2K is yours to do with as you see fit.

                            You have one Mongol cruiser SW of Rouen, that I haven't found, so keep an eye out.

                            Pisa and Genoa are also within reach of a transport.

                            Mongols still have 32 cities, down from 46.
                            Last edited by Ben Kenobi; September 8, 2004, 20:36.
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                            • And the save.

                              The player coming up should have a fun turn!
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                              • STYOM is up.

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