The Dance of Civilizations [Diplo Game] [Organization Thread Pt1]

[Robert]

Another option as a fall back (which Russia might not like, but might) is to re-load (a pain yes) to the moment inca logged out in 1360 / the moment Russia logged in in 1360, and Russia then miss that turn.

There's an autosave for every player's last login.
Unfortunately that means there's no 1360 autosave for Russia, because that one has been overwritten by the 1365 one.

That leaves us with the Inca login in 1360, which means that Inca has to reply 1360 and the other civs have to replay their 1365 turns.

If Russia indeed does not play 1360, then he can be first in 1365.
Good solution.

But if the Ottomans agree to continue as is, then that's ok as well.
So we wait for that.

[Robert]

So you think you know who I am?

[India (DoC)]

When I was about to declare war I've sent a msg to Robert to increase the timer. ofc I knew those civs were not his, but He may have subbed for them though..

[OzzyKP]

It would be nice of course to hear from the Ottomans.

[Persia (DoC)]

I don't care about anything anymore. This is most probably Ozzy subbing for ottomans being attacked by Ozzy subbing for Russia while the Arabs (subbed by Ozzy) knew everything in advance. Russia told RP before that the turn timer should be extended, but did not know that RP was already killed by Ozzy, who's hosting this game.

It also was Ozzy who met with Jeroen and Toni, revealing the secret identity to Jeroen and Toni. Not knowing that both Jeroen and Toni were also impersonated by Ozzy. So then Ozzy told Ozzy and Ozzy who he really was, which is Arabia, Russia and Ottomania. Which leads me to the conclusion that Ozzy = Jeroen = Robert = Toni = Russia = Arabia = Ottomania.

Let's move on people, nothing to see here/

*runs away screaming in paranoia, not getting far because running in circles while singing some weird song in elvish*

[Byzantium (DoC)]

The solution which people are suggesting (Ottoman by looking at previous turns agrees that there was no 'effective double move' i.e. nothing that has he seen he woudl have realised at attack was coming and responded) sounds good if it can work.

Another option as a fall back (which Russia might not like, but might) is to re-load (a pain yes) to the moment inca logged out in 1360 / the moment Russia logged in in 1360, and Russia then miss that turn. That would be completely in accordance with the rules - since if Russia hadn't moved in 1360 they wouldu be entitled to be first in 1365. By what Russia says it sounds like he wouldn't lose out by missing 1360. Of course the reload might mean the combat rolls are different and Russia might not like that, but of course Russia could then choose differently about the destruction of the city.

[Persia (DoC)]

I'm never going to trust anybody ever ever again.
*head explodes of paranoia overflow*

(I am honestly laughing really hard now!)

[OzzyKP]

The irony of course is that at the time I was subbing for Russia.

There was absolutely nothing I could do however to stop you. But I passed it off to the then permanent player just before you attacked. Nothing he could do either.

[Persia (DoC)]

When I declared war on Russia, 4000 years ago, I PM'ed Ozzy and asked him to tell RP that the turn timer had to be extended.
Back then I feared that RP would be Russia, so I didn't dare to PM RP himself immediately. Oh paranoia oh paranoia.

[Egypt (DoC)]

yes lets change rules as we play... AGAIN....

Korea, this is between Russia and the Ottomans, it's not a rule change, they are trying to find a decent solution with the least hassle for both parties. Let's not muddle their attempts at this by complaining about something that you are not involved in

[Russia (DoC)]

ask for longer turns the turn before attacking? and reveal the moment of attack like that?

[OzzyKP]

I agree that this is a quite complicated situation already, the best would be if the Ottomans/Arabians could confirm that there was no actually double moving unit and/or accept this current situation w/o reloading.

I agree with this.

I also offer to sub for the Arabs if needed.

[Korea (DoC)]

yes lets change rules as we play... AGAIN....

[England (DoC)]

I agree, if the Ottomans/Arabs can support what Russia says. No harm down.

[mzprox]

This rule, which I've always supported, is a bit problematic when we have fast turns. It requires a bit planning, and in any case Russia should had asked for longer turns in the turn before declaring war (asking Robert or Ozzy, no need to announce this in public).
I agree that this is a quite complicated situation already, the best would be if the Ottomans/Arabians could confirm that there was no actually double moving unit and/or accept this current situation w/o reloading.