Beyond the Pit [Pitboss Diplomacy Game] [Story Thread]

[Pitboss Inca]

Stinca Discoveries

The Stinca people have been living in gloom.

Just as the religious council was about to announce the founding of the national religion they discovered that their ideas of the spiritual world had already been discovered and announced in a far-off land. This came on the same day as the cheif priest was to reveal these secrets to the people. The spiritual council decided to retire to the holy cave and contemplate the founding of a different religion that would be unique to the Stinca People.

While the people were well fed by the white grains and the sea creatures they were frustrated by their inability to develop their surroundings. Being completely enveloped in trees they had no way to penetrate the forests and improve the land. Then one day the great Sage announced that he had discovered the use of a metal instrument that could be used to fell the mighty oaks. The workers put this knowledge to use on a wooded hill embedded with glistening stones.

Meanwhile there were reports that the Holy Jaguar had discovered a far-away land with delicious yellow grains and the fleet-of-wind creatures. He established a camp there and has invited citizens from home to migrate their and help harvest the grains and tame the creatures.

Back home there was a strange visitor who approached from the North but quicly withdrew leaving no message. The Stinca people would welcome the opportunity of trading with these people but they know nothing about their intentions.

[Pitboss Portugal]

Greeting Romans!

We do not know what news have reached the Roman motherland, but Romulus is well and heading back south. Both kings Meto II and Romulus met finally a couple of days ago outside Korecom. Romulus offered Meto II a peace treaty, which was signed that same day. After celebrating the peace with his guest Meto II is back home busy as usual working on some domestic issues. A dozen of our finest warriors were given orders to escort Romulus safely through the south forest. He should be appearing on your radar very soon.

Our king also sends a proposition:

I offer you the border between our two tribes to be where our villages are? Rome can have the south and east. We will have the north.

Meto II

[Pitboss Celts]

Originally posted by Pitboss Vikings
Khmer.

I hope ozzy is repsonding to you.
If not then as I am Subbing for him you should have contacted myself to negotiate. I would then contact ozxzy to check his ok on anything.

Please people read the posts and know who is being subbed.

Given that any correspondence I've received from Ozzy is directed at his e-mail address, it's a little hard for me to discuss anything with you as you don't have the original mail thread to base a decision.

It shouldn't be up to the rest of us to figure out who is subbing for who and how to contact them.

Personally I find it a little unfair that someone is allowed to control a rival even if it is for a short amount of time.

[Pitboss Vikings]

perhpas if people read the forums they will know who is subbing for who.

Ozzys instructions to me were to not change any agreements already in place. so i didnt.

If you wanted a new agreement and ozzy didnt respond then that was because he was away. so per the fact i posted i was ozzys sub, any new things should hav ebeen brought to my attention.

As to rivals subbing for one another. i guess it comes back to the essence of DIPLO style. knowing where and what ozzy done makes no change to way i run my civ as i am roleplaying my civ, the only changes to that are in game stuff. such as meeting a new tribe etc. Knowing things outside of that like subbing for ozzy does not make me change my style nor what i doing in game., Ozzy knows that about me so he can trsut me to move his moves as he proposed.

[Pitboss America]

Isn't this supposed to be a story thread ?

...The previous two posts (and this one) should be moved/deleted to the beatch (sorry - organization thread).

[Pitboss Maya]

The Maya 1675 BC

Korea Sends a Gift

Shortly after the Mayan elders had ordered all able bodied males to don the traditional Holkan war decorations in preparation to exterminate the Koreans, an unexpected gift arrived.

A small band of Korean warriors approached the Mayan borders, carrying the former Korean leader Gung Ye hogtied to a pole.

The Koreans were blindfolded and escorted to the Oracle at Tikal to meet with the Elders. It was here they disclosed the turn of events in Seoul.



Dear Mayan leaders, we recognize your rights to the prisoners taken as spoils of war, and implore you to come to the bargaining table. As a sign of good faith we have accompanied this message with Gung Ye himself, you may do as you please with him. The fool told his people he was going on campaign to attack you and retrieve our people, however he stayed home in hiding like a coward, surrounded by his religious advisers.

Bring him forward.

Gung Ye was untied, gathered his composure, and stood before the old men, shaking from fear of what awaited him.

Gung Ye, your pride and stupidity has created much discourse between our people. You should have realized what you were up against when your entire army was slaughtered at Seoul many moons ago. But instead you send us insulting proposals concerning future borders. You demanded the return of slaves. It was difficult for us to tell if you were bold, or crazy. It is inconsequential now as your people have apparently taken matters into their own hands. It is fortunate for them, as the Maya have developed new weapons made of a harder gray metal and were ready to try them out in Seoul. Normally, we would sacrifice you to Uh, but that is reserved for warriors.

Oh thank goodness

So we will be forced to sacrifice you to K'in instead.

Noooooo

Gung Ye was lead away from the Elders and tied naked to the top of a pillar at Stonehenge. His fair skin blistered under the midday sun, and the wounds were fed on by jungle insects well into the night. By sunrise the following day he was dead.

Korean warriors, take this drawing back to your new leader. If he agrees to this border perhaps the Mayans and Koreans can live together in peace.



OOC: Korea, check your plompmail for the border agreement. It can be linked to from the first post in the organizational thread.

[Pitboss Vikings]

Colonel Sanders looked down from the hill his troops were situated on. In the distance he could see the Homelands of the Natives. It looked like a very nice home land. He had seen their warriors in the mountains overlooking the Native citys and knew they were good people.

He set his gaze further to the east and tryed to see the Pierced ones lands but saw nothing in that direction.

He had his orders and so he ordered the troops to rise up and they were to continue on. Somewhere they hoped to find the Eastern Ocean

[Pitboss Rome]

Originally posted by Pitboss Portugal
Greeting Romans!

We do not know what news have reached the Roman motherland, but Romulus is well and heading back south. Both kings Meto II and Romulus met finally a couple of days ago outside Korecom. Romulus offered Meto II a peace treaty, which was signed that same day. After celebrating the peace with his guest Meto II is back home busy as usual working on some domestic issues. A dozen of our finest warriors were given orders to escort Romulus safely through the south forest. He should be appearing on your radar very soon.

Our king also sends a proposition:

I offer you the border between our two tribes to be where our villages are? Rome can have the south and east. We will have the north.

Meto II

Truly? The fates smile upon us. It is good to know he is back on his way to Rome. I must say this creates a bit of a legal problem (and we Romans take the law seriously) since our empire now has two kings, but the return of our God and founder is a most welcomed gesture.

We like our glorious king said before his trip, seek good relations with all our neighbors. We hope that Meto II like us regrets these skirmishes.

Hm, your border arrangement seems fair for the most part. Portugal can have the north and Rome shall have the south. Now the great desert to the west is poorly explored and does not have much value, but some of my sooth sayers say that it may turn out to hold great treasures in the distant future the nature of which we can not yet understand. I propose Rome has the barren west as well, we shall not expand far east, perhaps one or two cities since those are the lands of the Rus. If you make deals with the Rus feel free to expand east Rome will not impede you.

We present you this drawing of our border proposal.




Numa Pompilius, king of Rome

[Pitboss Russia]

Ouch. My head is hurtink. So many messages. So much to do. And now this...




I thought I agreed with Roman not to settle east of the city east of Antium. And here they are, crashing down right south of Kiev. This is unacceptable! Secretary, take memorizing of message:

Dear King of Rome. I see you have decided to violate our previous agreement and settle east of the city of Antium. This creates a most unfortunate situation as your new settlement comes in conflict with my own, Kiev, which was established there first. I see no other solution than to remove your settlement. I do hope you will agree to this and aid in relocating its people. Should you not agree, I shall be very put out. The Rus are very numerous and extremely prolific and fertile. They needink much land to expand to. I also be thinkink that I should make clear, that any settlement east of Cumae, will also be considered grounds for much discord. I hope you understand that this is all done in best intention for future good of my people and yours. End message.


What you think? Polite, firm, and cooperative. Yes?


Certainly, my Lord Pitr. Let us hope that Rome agrees as well...

[Pitboss Russia]

And while you are beink at it. Send message to Port of Geese as follows.

This river is the demarcationink of Rus lands and foreign lands. I hope you be agreeink to this to be good deal. We will settle on the eastern bank of great river. And not go west. You will not go east of great river. And we shall beink friends for long time. I hope you agree.



So. Run off with you. Important messages.

[Pitboss Greece]

Chieff of Athens:
People of Athens, today we are gathered to discuss foreign matters. Our travelers have returned from foreign nations. They have met the Coreans and the Mayans. They have made peace.

We have learned from an ongoing war, started many years ago, between the Coreans and the Mayans. Apparantly these tribes, hate each other.

Both the Coreans and the Mayans have asked us to be their friends by accepting their enemy as our enemy.

The Mayans appear to be sneaky people. They try to fullfill their wishes by force. They lay down their orders upon the weaker civilizations and accept obedience.
We have learned that the Mayans have kidnapped a group of Corean workers while they were negotiating peace.

We have learned that the Coreans are stubborn people. Even if all odds against them, they still follow their own path. They attack their enemy, even when there's no change on survival. They let their workers work the fields even when the enemy is approaching. They do not accept terms of peace even when a stronger army is on their way to murder their children.

The Coreans have honor, they do not want to bow for other nations. They want to be threated fair and equal, otherwise they pray to the OOC gods for help.

What do we do now, children of Athens?
Do we share friendship with both these nations?
Do we only accept the Mayans as our friends, but how do we know that they will not hit us in our back in the future?
Or do we accept the peace of the Coreans? But can we be sure that they will accept our wishes, or will they only insist that their terms will be met, no matter how?

We can also decide to stay outside all foreign affairs.

A man stood up, his name was Sparta.

We shall not support the weak. The force of the gods is with the strongest tribes. How can a weak tribe have the blessing of the gods? What gods are behind a weak tribe? Why would we reunite with weakness? I say: make friendship with the Mayans. We can be strong together.

Then another man spoke, his name was Thermopolae.

There is no sin in being weak. Our children our weak, but I am sure that they carry the blessings of the gods. We should support the weak because one day we may be the weak. Who will support us when we will be weak if we won didn't support the weak when we were strong? I say: let's send a few armies of our finest archers to defend the Coreans.

Then a big uproar started. People started to argue, to fight.

Then Sparta said:
I have no interest in living in this city of weakness. Who agrees with me should follow me and I will lead you to new grounds

Thermopylae rsponded:
We should part with the fools. Let those who pitty the weak follow me. We will build a new city where the strong and the weak will work together to ensure a great future.

When thousands of citizen of Athens left the city, the chieff of Athens, Philipus, said:
Now we have lost the pro-Coreans and we have lost pro-mayans. What should we do?

I say: let's not interfere with foreign affairs. We can be friends with both the Mayans and the Coreans. Their war is not our war. Let their war not come between the children of Athens. Let's not kill each other because the Mayans kill the Coreans and the Coreans kill the Mayans.

Sparta founded the city of Sparta in the east near the mountains. They mined the silver in the north and worked the floodplains in the northwest.

Thermopylae and his people founed Thermopylae in the North in the fields of grass. They lead the sheep through the grasslands.

Sparta had sent an army of many archers towards the Mayan empire to support the Mayans.

Thermopylae had sent an army of many archers towards the Corean empire to support the Coreans.

The Athenians remained independant in the conflict.
All three cities doubled the defense of their cities to protect themselves against each other.

[classical_hero]

The v oyage of the Spanish Sailing Ship: The Lonely Voyager

In the year 1825 BC, a group of voyagers set out on a dangerous journey to see other mighty people of lore that we have heard of. We have only met the Stinca people, but they were very smelly and we were glad to have a treaty with them, but hopefully we can have a long distance relationship, since it is bad enough the smell from here. So the people decided we wanted to met these people. So here is their story so far.
First we shall met the ship built for the voyage.


The crew were not all that looking forward to a journey on such a small ship. But nevertheless they set forth with such gusto and sung the Tradition Spainsh sailing song.

We sail the ocean blue,
And our saucy ship's a beauty;
We're sober men and true,
And attentive to our duty.
When the balls whistle free
O'er the bright blue sea,
We stand to our guns all day;
When at anchor we ride
On the Madrid tide,
We have plenty of time to play.

Ahoy! ahoy! the balls whistle free.
Ahoy! ahoy! o'er the bright blue sea,
We stand to our guns, to our guns all day.

We sail the ocean blue,
And our saucy ship's a beauty;
We're sober men and true,
And attentive to our duty;
Our saucy ship's a beauty,
We're attentive to our duty;
We're sober men and true,
We sail the ocean blue!

Now that the song had been sung in fine voice the treacherous journey had began. The people had anxiously wait for return of word of what they have seen. We recieved word that they have seen a weird creature that was just called a horned creature.. We will have our best and brightest minds figuring out this magical creature. We did receive a picture on what it looks like, but it still confusing.


Well so far we have not met any other nations so far, but once we will the Spainsih people will be very happy about a joyous meeting.

[Pitboss Rome]

Originally posted by Pitboss Russia

[i] I thought I agreed with Roman not to settle east of the city east of Antium. And here they are, crashing down right south of Kiev. This is unacceptable! Secretary, take memorizing of message:

Dear King of Rome. I see you have decided to violate our previous agreement and settle east of the city of Antium. This creates a most unfortunate situation as your new settlement comes in conflict with my own, Kiev, which was established there first. I see no other solution than to remove your settlement. I do hope you will agree to this and aid in relocating its people. Should you not agree, I shall be very put out. The Rus are very numerous and extremely prolific and fertile. They needink much land to expand to. I also be thinkink that I should make clear, that any settlement east of Cumae, will also be considered grounds for much discord. I hope you understand that this is all done in best intention for future good of my people and yours. End message.

Originally posted by Pitboss Russia

The above is the last map we agreed upon, as you can see it allows Roman settlements east of Antium, in fact we explicitly said we would settle on the edge of our land south of the shiny metal but in range of the bounty of the sea. The city location now settled is not far from there. We do regret the citys placement but this was done by the sub known as Robert the Cyberian or Robert the Shy, the cities where placed slightly over the agreed border. We apologise on his behalf.

The cities relocation is not an easy undertaking, we could offer you a different deal. We will pledge not to build magnificent Roman buildings that might sway locals to our empire and so keep the cities cultural infulence minimal, your cities "fat X" will remain untouched. The land in dispute is worthless desert in any case.

We also wish to take the opportunity to speak of a proposal, our settlement in that location is idealy placed to become a trading outpost. We can build a road from Rome to the city very quickly (we are Romans after all). Then, if you should agree to it, we could begin a joint effort to link my settlement to your nearest settlement. We shall soon master the art of writting in cuieform and will be then able to write up a "Treaty of Comerce" (open borders with a mutual understanding of not sending units into each others lands). Such trade would bring untold proseprity to both our peoples, making our wealth the envy of the civised world. Further more, the presence of Rus traders in Rome would also serve to enlighten some prejuceded patricians who belive easterners to be dangerus barbarians that should be conquered by our legions. Please consider my proposal once this border dispute is resolved.

We also need to negotiate on our northern border, the river Ren is a unfavorable boarder for us (since the lush green lands beyond it inspire envy) but if you forgive us our little transgresion in the south and agree to trade we will be happy to recognise it and bestov the title of "friend of Rome" on your person.

Numa Pompilius, king of Rome and her daughter cities

[Pitboss Korea]

The Former Home of the Warlod Gung Ye...

Wang Geon was a shrewd and able politician; his aims were two-fold and quite simple - convince the people of Seoul into an alliance with the city of Pyongyang, and utilize the "heroic death" of Gung Ye to his advantage. If the people of Seoul believed that Wang Geon was responsible for Gung Ye's death, or felt that Gung Ye had betrayed their trust (the leader had lied to his people, claiming he was out on campaign when he had secretly remained in Seoul) a peasant uprising would result. Being a foreigner Wang Geon knew he would have little support in such a situation. Thus Wang Geon had returned to Gung Ye's home to capture his Buddhist advisors and ensure their silence on the matter, they were all witnesses to Gung Ye's capture and it would be only a matter of time until word got out. Wang Geon also realized without the support of the monks any control over Seoul would be temporary...

"What are we looking for?" a warrior asked his general Gung Jo, "There isn't anything here!"

"Any correspondence between Gung Ye and the Maya, we can't let any of this information get out, it would compromise everything we've worked for. Gung Ye must look legendary, like he never capitulated, never shrank from their challenge." the general answered.

"I don't understand my lord, how does it benefit us to make this Gung Ye look brave?"

"We need the people of Seoul on our side, they must feel they had brave leadership, they must have something to look up to, in contrast Wang must look contemplative, he must look calm, otherwise these seems like a takeover. Besides, the monks must be on our side and if we offer good terms we can accomplish this" Gang Jo had always been frank with his men, he knew without their blessings he would be nothing more than another warrior "You're right though, there is nothing here." the general said, dismayed he kicked over a large pot. The pot shattered, Korean pottery works were quite new and not as advanced as they would become.

"My lord, look, there is a tablet there!" the warrior said, bringing his torch closer to the potshards.

He was right, there was a small white piece among the clay debris, Gang Jo picked it up and blew the dust from it "What is this language?" he said to himself.

"Let me see" the warrior said, he turned it over to its other side "Here, these are our words, it looks like a message to Gung Ye..." the soldier said.

"Well? What does it say?" Gang Jo asked impatiently.

"I can't read it sir, I can't read." the soldier admitted.

Gang Jo couldn't either, but still snatched the piece from his man and said "you fool, give me that! We'll take it to the monks, maybe they'll know what it is..."

Meanwhile, days outside of Seoul...

It had been at least three months since Jinul had seen another person, and even longer since he had actually spoken with one. Jinul was a monk from the great mountains north of Seoul. His fellow monks had spied a Korean army marching north into the jungles, where the "Dragon People" dwelt (this is the moniker the monks gave the Mayans), the monks had taken it upon themselves to spread word to the great Buddhist King Gung Ye that the Dragon People were savage warriors, and would make quick work of the small Korean army. It was Jinul's task to convince Gung Ye to make peace with these peoples and spread the teaching of the Buddha into their vast wild jungles. The monks already knew that many Buddhist farmers had been taken as slaves by the Dragon People, and knew their fate would not be a pleasant one; the Dragon People practiced human sacrifice to their Great Dragon God who the monks considered a demon.

It was only a week ago that Jinul saw an army of Mayan Hokan's heading back towards the jungles, and he feared that he may have been too late, so he sought out any village he could find, he knew there were villagers who raised pigs nearby and he could find word of what had transpired. He hoped for the sake of the people of Seoul he would make it. He saw a shepherd in the distance and approached him. Jinul was not an imposing man, so he didn't think he would frighten the shepherd, he was wrong.

"Yes friend, I Jinul" he began in broken Korean, it wasn't his first language and even then he had rarely spoken it.

"Who are you?" the shepherd asked, raising his staff "Where do you come from?"

Jinul simply pointed towards the mountains, he held up his bracelet to indicate he was a monk.

"Oh, mount Jogye, a monk huh?" the man said, he kept his staff raised in defense "How do I know this? There is war afoot, Pacal has been taking slaves you know, you shouldn't travel alone, I wouldn't be here alone myself but my sons have been called upon by Gung Ye."

"Gung Ye, yes yes, Gung Ye, in Seoul yes?" Jinul replied.

"No, Gung Ye has gone with his army to the jungles, he intends to fight Pacal and return our people to their families" the shepherd replied, lowering his staff "The damned fool, they will eat him alive! They eat people you know, the Maya."

"Who now speak for Seoul?" Jinul asked.

"Who speaks for Seoul? I am not sure, the monks I suppose" the shepherd replied, Jinul looked confused "Um, the Buddha's man now speak for Seoul." the shepherd said.

"Ah, yes yes" Jinul said smiling, he stared at the shepherd, it was clear he had no idea what was going on.

"Um, well, here have some bread and water" the shepherd offered some food from his bag "You must follow this river here, the river Han, it flows straight towards Seoul, there you will find your monks."

"Here, take" Jinul said, offering a small statue of the Buddha "take."

The shepherd took the small statue, and smiled at Jinul "Good luck..."

[Pitboss Japan]

Lord Zanza appointed everyone in Kyoto so build him the great pyramid to show the world how great he was. He began buy ordering his work force to build a query by the mountainside so they had the stones needed to work. The people of Kyoto refused to build this great pyramid so he ordered 2000 of the citizens to be beheaded in front of the others. So the army gathered 2000 children and elderly and beheaded them all. The rest of the people were afraid to they began the hard work of building the great pyramid. After hearing of what Lord Zanza had done the sand ninja felt like they had no other choice but to save the few people they were assigned to save. So as soon as night feel the ninja came into the city and escorted a few refugees to the village hidden in the sand. Little do their knowledge Lord Zanza know of their plans so he had some of his elite guards follow them so he could send his army to destroy the sand village.