HOTW XII Diplogame Organization Thread. Part 2

[condor223]

you forgot someone quit when they lost half their civ when the ai made a colony. No one has said that colonies were disabled in making this game.

[Diplo Ottoman]

Advance notice for 12th/13th April, the ottomans will not be able to make the session, and with a substantial number of New World cities, AI control would destroy my civ.

[Diplo Mali]

However, from what I can see, there is an increasing likelihood that both France and myself will be unable to make it. I think if you have 2 or more people missing-especially out of 9-then it might be worth postponing. If it is just me who can't make it (and can't find a sub) then I will just wear it.

[Heraclitus]

We should all do our best to find both Mali and France subs. Also if we fail we should try our best to get Ottomans a sub for April 12th since the dillema there is much bigger.


Yes it would be just one player but he would suffer as much damage as France would from AI rule.

[Diplo France]

Originally posted by Diplo Inca
Mali has no colonies yet.

France can you not make this session? You say an early start may be better for you?

Postponing the session will hurt the game. Check old Diplo games!

Yes I understand it may hurt the game. I've just checked starting the game early will not be an option.
It all depends if we can find anyone to sub, and from what I'm hearing from the Mali, two subs would be needed.

Originally posted by Diplo Inca


The problem with this is that, once this happens others may want to skip a session for themselves if they can't make it some other time.

I doubt it, here we have two players who can't make it.

Originally posted by Diplo Mali
Oh, now the Mali understands. Its OK for them to be run by an interim government when important Affairs of State call the leader away, but its not OK for France. Hurrumph. Do I detect just a hint of racism?

If people are biased, I would say it is because the AI can colonise away all my cities, crippling my strategy and adding an AI player which is always bad.

Originally posted by Diplo Mali

OOC: I think this game can survive a single missed session, from what I've heard, HOTWXI failed to launch for a whole number of reasons. Here we are finished our 9th session and we are already in the 14th century. That's pretty good going if you ask me.

Pretty good, but the last session was one hour late and ended 15 min early. Missiong one session would be bad, but with two players not having subs I agree. I mean you would be playing with 2 AI's together with two more that would be created in the game.


Nols has been very kind and has forwarded my mail to some of the people she knows. But so far, like the people I know, none can make it. I have to agree with mali 2/9 is not that few. Please help us find ok subs, heck any subs, even trainable monkeys that can press turn and follow instructions would not be worse than the AI.

Firaxis realy should add a option in the next patch:
/no colonies for AI civs/

[condor223]

There is a setting for no colonies in MP. It needs to be engaged before the first launch.

[OzzyKP]

I'm ok with skipping the session if we can't find subs.

[Diplo Carpathia]

If a player cannot make the session it is their responsablity to find a sub.

[Heraclitus]

Originally posted by Diplo Carpathia
If a player cannot make the session it is their responsablity to find a sub.

I belive no one ever said otherwise. France only said they would appreicate a bit of help since so far they have had no luck. This was most likley meant in a "if you happen to know someone who might be interested... please tell me" way not in a "ok now I'm going to watch TV for 8 hours while you guys sort this out. And if you don't you can't play." way

[The_Aussie_Lurker]

Yep, I get the sense that both Mali and France are doing their level best to find Subs within the regular MP community, but if no-one is available, then they're out of luck-aren't they? Why should they be penalised for something over which they have no control if they have done the leg-work during the week? Indeed, the only HOTWXII session we have played so far, where a civ has AI, was with Carpathia, but that was only because (a) they didn't tell us til the last minute that they couldn't play and (b) didn't arrange a sub and gave us no time to find one. Neither case applies this time around. I'm with Ozzy on this, if no subs can be found for BOTH players, then I suggest one week off.

Aussie_Lurker.

[The_Aussie_Lurker]

Oh I also concur that France and-next week-Ottomans are the key concern re: finding Subs. If we can find just 1 good sub for both these weeks then this will be enough to allow the game to continue unabated (sorry Mali-just the way its got to be).

Aussie_Lurker.

[Diplo Carpathia]

Didn't mean to come off as a hardhead with that last comment, but I think in general games should not be postponed because of player absence.

It opens the door for alot of future issues IMO. Also, if players know that the game WILL go on without them this provides extra incentive to find a sub.

Now, I understand that this upcomming week is a special case... two players missing and the potential for France to get screwed because of a game mechanic.

In short, I don't have a problem with us skipping this week, but I hope it does not set a precidence for the future.

[OzzyKP]

Actually.... and this isn't a ploy or anything, but I can't make it this week. It looks like my video card is totally ****ed up. I don't think I'm gonna be able to play till I get a new one. I'll try and order something today, but it isn't going to come in time for this week's session.

[OzzyKP]

Also, for those of you in the US (maybe elsewhere) who have Fox News Channel, I'll be on there tonight between 7 and 8 pm EST, so tune in.

And, I think this'll run on the regular Fox channel, but I'll also be on Fox's morning show (Mike & Juliet) Monday morning. That hasn't been confirmed yet, but I'll let you know when I hear back from them.

[Heraclitus]

Is it just me or is that frikkin awseome? So much so that I have decided to suppres a strong urge I have to say things, that would come out as ***** on poly, about FOX news.