History of the World XI [Diplomacy Game] [Organization II]

[deity]

Originally posted by CyberShy
Regarding England being vassalized by Portugal, I think Deity just wanted to put that up for debate.

I don't think it's a good idea if not for pure imaballance reasons.
It should be American
After all England is a colony of America anyway

It's not really up for debate. I'll make my own judgements on it thank you.

And my decisions will be based on the in game good and bad form of other players.

[deity]

Originally posted by CyberShy
Toni: MrLincoln had said that he would play the 19th, and he didn't.

And since MrL only played 1 session in the past 9 weeks, you can't claim to have very good human relations with Russia.

I can't really say that I'm happy with Mr.Lincoln's participation. He's obviously interested in the game, and excited about it. But he joins games he actually can't fit into his schedule, and once in a while he posts that he can't play, and if he says that he can play, he doesn't show up in 50% of the cases.

I'm sorry Mr.Lin, but your record is defenitely not good.

Well it's clear to me that England and Russia have beenb AI for 2 o 3 sessions and we don't have any sensible relacements so Germany and Portugal are NOT going to be at the mercy of these AI forever.

Why don't you just gift England all those military techs as well? Will that make you feel better?

[The_Aussie_Lurker]

BTW guys, I WILL be here for Saturday's game-which means Bantums & Mike Schmidt can sub for any other missing players instead !

Aussie_Lurker.

[deity]

That IS good news Marcus.

Now, I hope you read the story thread...

[Robert]

Deity is on a (spam) roll!

I say: England needs to be Islamised and brought under direct control of the Great Prophet

[deity]

Hey, that's not spam - it has content! AND I kept thinking of things, true!

[Toni]

Well deity i'm only saying what Ozzy said in his post So argue with him

[Toni]

Well greed is a sad thing. Your posts just prove this over and over! Lets do what we can just to get this even worser - way to go

[OzzyKP]

The wisdom of the Ozzy is beyond debate.

[Toni]

And for the record - I have been trying really hard to stay out of this debate - but you just talk and talk. Follow Franks example - he said what he had to and that was it. You are just chewing this endlessly - give it a break.

Continuing on just shows that the prize of winning a diplo game is the Holy Grail for u. Lets stop twisting things.

[Toni]

Toni: MrLincoln had said that he would play the 19th, and he didn't

CS he actually did say it:

This session=abesnt
Oct 26Next session = abesnt
Nov. 2= playing
Nov 9=playing
Nov. 16= playing
Nov 23= possibly abesnt
And (if they come to exist) i will be able to play MOST December sessions.

I also do not like his unreliability - he being absent just unbalances the whole game - but of course some will not agree due to fitting them very nicely: After all russia is the sole reason for some having an army and now having no use vs the russian seek other prays. Of course now they say all you poor newbs of course we will kill u all - after all u were stupid enough to tech and not build up. Hehe who are u following guys

[Toni]

Just funny people using only what suits them the best and ignoring the big picture

Now of course some will jump and use the me giving Techs to the russian Ai thing:

But make sure u read again and again what Ozzy says:

If you have a pre-existing tech relationship with a human civ and you owe them X tech, I see no trouble whatsoever in gifting that tech to the AI. Or even, in some circumstances, making a full tech trade that had previously been agreed to with the human player.

Using his words - because after all his is the foundation of this diplo game.

Well of course because the hate doesn't stops here, talk to the last russian player and what agreements he and the Ducth had.

But who i'm i following here - this will never die would it?

So i will just go on and read revengeful statements and try to my best to go with the groups flow

[Robert]

@Toni: Nobody doubts that the judge would not put you in jail given the available evidence, if we would put you on trial, thus there's no need for you to go into laywer mode.

[Toni]

Well CS i just can't sit back any more and watch people using my name over and over (maybe 100 times the last couple of pages)

So sorry but i will defend myself when being talk on over and over.

[Robert]

By 'being a laywer' I mean that you come up with arguments in lawyer style, finding excuses in the most odd places.

Why don't you just say: "ok, it wasn't the smartest thing I've done and maybe I shouldn't have done it, I'm sorry" and it's all over!

In the heat of the moment I accuses you guys from having an 8-way alliance, later I had no problems to say sorry, and admit that there was no 8-way alliance.

Why is it so hard to just say 'sorry'?
Why do we need keep defending ourselves and all actions we've done till eternity? Everybody makes mistakes. I make mistakes, Frank does, Ian does, Toni does, everybody does.

That's ok. Seriously, I have forgiven you already 1000 times. You don't even need to say sorry to me, I'm fine anyway. What bothers me is that people keep searching for excuses.

Btw, I hope that Frank says 'sorry' as well.
He has done some naughty name calling. And obviously we can debate into eternity if the name calling was deserved or not. But that doesn't matter. Even if it was deserved, you don't have to give it.

You guys are "An eye for an eye"
All I ask you to be more a "turn the other cheek" person.

Maybe Frank is legally right to take the eyes of many people. I think that he shouldn't take them anyway. If he's without sins he can trow the first stone.

/ christian rant

Conclusion: can we end the debate?
Preferably if all involved can say sorry for the things they've done wrong? People who claim that they are 100% honorable in a fight are sick and crazy.

Everybody who is involved is to blame, it's as simple as that, at least in this case.