History of the World XI [Diplomacy Game] [Organization II]

[deity]

I opened this save Cyber and I get a spinning ball and all civs have ended their turn and I can't move... is that right?

[Robert]

Originally posted by deity
I opened this save Cyber and I get a spinning ball and all civs have ended their turn and I can't move... is that right?

That's because I'm not in the game, while the game was saved while I was in the game.

Load it as me, and it'll be fine. (just don't look around, I'll trust you )

[OzzyKP]

Originally posted by condor223
Dan Cole has reminded me he needs a sub for England next session. Anyone interested?

Sorry, no.

[deity]

Originally posted by CyberShy


That's because I'm not in the game, while the game was saved while I was in the game.

Load it as me, and it'll be fine. (just don't look around, I'll trust you )

No worries, I take your word for it!

Thx for sorting this Cyber. Someone said you were "keeper of the game" I like that

It's where the buck stops!!

[deity]

So with this new security protection I guess we can now gio back to using passwords? I've not used them since the Epic of Man diplo where my password wasn't recognised in the first Civ 4 upgrade. It broke the game and we couldn't continue it. But I think rock solid security is excellent. I know we all trust each other but it is a fluid community and despite the trust there have still been some nasty allegations of cheating. Plus, you see the odd suspicious comment being made even between trusted players. So I propose using passwords and giving it to a non-player or a forum admin where they can store it (ensuring that the current game's keeper has access in an emergency).

I propose ozzy for this with Cyber having acccess.

[Frank Johnson]

I still think the whole idea of the game stalling on load due to not all the human players being present is a crock and just speculation that can't be backed up. It's much more likely to just be poor in house testing (no beta team anymore) in our situation (large game 10+ players) all using weird/different configs on 3-4 continents. If the issue gets some attention from firaxis it'll prolly get fixed, but too late for us. We made some progress due to brute force last time (trying multiple saves, multiple reloads, etc). Worst comes to worst load the thing up in the world editor, make it a scenario and see if that does anything to it.

[arvcran]

3.13 possible feature and a nknow bug

Yes it is possible it is not a feature and is simply a bug.

there is however a real bug:

When the game has random events as ours does each time there is a random event someone will go OOS - curiously I don't recall this happening last time. Did we not get at least one random event?

I think that for us - it would be nice to be able to launch without the same number of players and play for sure - the software of course has no way of knowing when a session is 'offical' though. So I think this bug or feature is better imho as an overall solution to preventing cheating - or unfair advantage to players who load up and play the game to test different strategies *shrug*.

Let's hope everyone shows or we are able to get fake subs to start the game this sessions ;-). (Unless Cyber has already resolved this - that post was too difficult for my brain to follow ;-) )

[Frank Johnson]

I don't think this means less cheating I think this means the return of the "kill civ on drop" feature, so we can continue without worthless civs.

[Robert]

We ended our last session with an OOS, I think.
3.13 comes with more OOS's.

Someone said that if everybody did a total clean civ4 / civ4:BtS/ 3.13 install, the nr of OOS's would be much much lower.

Thus please all do a clean install before session time.

The game stalling problem has been solved

@Deity: do I understand you correct if I draw from your post that you've seen between the lines of peoples posts that they cheat?

[deity]

Originally posted by CyberShy
We ended our last session with an OOS, I think.
3.13 comes with more OOS's.

Someone said that if everybody did a total clean civ4 / civ4:BtS/ 3.13 install, the nr of OOS's would be much much lower.

Thus please all do a clean install before session time.

The game stalling problem has been solved

@Deity: do I understand you correct if I draw from your post that you've seen between the lines of peoples posts that they cheat?

I was thinking of HOTW7 where there were allegations. And I don't think anyone has implied they cheat but I do think that some of us may 'wonder' about other players (not just this game) and the only way to put all speculation to rest is passwords and this new game screwing 'feature'

We did end with an OOS btw.

[Robert]

I don't need to open the civs of others to examine them, I already got a great spy 8)

[deity]

he he

No one laughed at my joke in the story thread Maybe it isn't funny...

And there are not too many stories, yet much has happened in such a short time.

[Robert]

I thought it was funny

[Robert]

Activity table:

Story Thread:
---- Session 7 - Friday October 12th ----
October 12th - LzPrst
October 11th - Deity
October 10th - CyberShy
October 8th - The_Aussie_Lurker
October 8th - arvcran
October 6th - Nolan
---- Session 6 - Friday October 5th ----
October 5th - Frank Johnson
---- Session 5 - Friday September 28th ----
September 18th - Toni
September 24th - Asmodeous
---- Session 4 - Friday September 21th ----
September 21th - dacole
---- Session 3 - Friday September 14th ----
---- Session 2 - Friday September 7th -----
September 6th - Beta
---- Session 1 - Friday August 31th ---------

Organization Thread:
---- Session 7 - Friday October 12th ----
October 12th - CyberShy
October 12th - Deity
October 12th - Frank Johnson
October 12th - arvcran
October 11th - Nolan
October 10th - Toni
October 8th - Asmodeous
October 6th - LzPrst
---- Session 6 - Friday October 5th ----
October 6th - Mr.Lincoln
October 6th - Dacole
October 6th - Beta
---- Session 5 - Friday September 28th ----
---- Session 4 - Friday September 21th ----
---- Session 3 - Friday September 14th ----
---- Session 2 - Friday September 7th -----
---- Session 1 - Friday August 31th ---------
August 11th - The_Aussie_Lurker

[Robert]

Players:

	Civilization	Leader	also known as	Former players / Subs
Arvcran	Inca	Huayna Capac
The_Aussie_Lurker (2*)	Ethiopia	Zara Yaqob
Mr.Lincoln (1) / LzPrst (3)	Russia	Stalin		Mr.Lincoln (s1), LzPrst (s2-6)
Dacole (2)	England	Elizabeth	Daniel, Cole	LzPrst (s1)
Beta (1)	Rome	Augustus	Toxoxi	Mr.Lincoln (s6)
Nolan (4)	Byzantine	Justinian I	condor233	AI (s3)
CyberShy (5)	America	Lincoln	Rho'd Berth
Deity (15)	Portugal	Joao II
Asmodeous	Native America	Sitting Bull		AI (s1), Deity Dude (s2)
Toni (3)	Dutch	Willem van Oranje
Frank Johnson (15)	Germany	Bismarck	Dangime