Bugs thread - 3.13

[khines]

Yes or no...

So should those of us who haven't done so, yet, upgrade to 3.13?

[joncnunn]

I'd recomend upgrading to it and then installing Buric's unoffical patch to it which fixes the resource trading problems introduced by 313 along with some more fixes.

[joncnunn]

On the 2 unhealthiness with "clean" power sources, I think they should mention it on all plants & also the Three Georges Dam. (At first I thought about Factory but since Coal Plants -4 shows up on the power category as well ... [in Coal Plant's case that -4 power might also be on top of a -2 building])

Basically it seems to me that Firaxis was trying to weaken SE a bit vs CE between the new power & resource unhealthiness along with giving the Env. civic a minor boost.

[wodan11]

It does seem kind of silly if you build 3 Gorges and zero Factories, you get -2 health in all cities across your empire.

At minimum, the -2 should kick in only if you are using the power.

Wodan

[joncnunn]

Agreed, but in my last game, it didn't matter; the only city I had that did not have a factory at the time 3 Gorges was built had such a low population the unhealthiness didn't matter. (Captured City with a lot of tiles controlled by the original owner.)

Originally posted by wodan11
It does seem kind of silly if you build 3 Gorges and zero Factories, you get -2 health in all cities across your empire.

At minimum, the -2 should kick in only if you are using the power.

Wodan

[Kuciwalker]

It does seem kind of silly if you build 3 Gorges and zero Factories, you get -2 health in all cities across your empire.

That's the penalty for cheating

[wodan11]

Why is that cheating?

Wodan

[Kuciwalker]

How else would you build 3 Gorges?

[ColdPhoenix]

Originally posted by wodan11
It does seem kind of silly if you build 3 Gorges and zero Factories, you get -2 health in all cities across your empire.

At minimum, the -2 should kick in only if you are using the power.

Agreed. Though it would be silly to build 3GD if you'd no factories, it's a very expensive wonder....

The unhealthiness is added for balance, it's not very realistic. I'm sure older pre-electricity factories that used steam power or whatever were just as polluting.

[wodan11]

Exactly my point... it's a very expensive wonder. And now, it's no longer necessarily a good idea to build factories in low-production cities. (Previously, it often was a good idea precisely because they were low production, to boost what they had, and to allow them to run more engineers.)

I guess I'm wondering if the cost of 3 Gorges should have been scaled back, since its benefit was nerfed...

Wodan

[wodan11]

dupe post.

[BigFree]

If I goup select workers using the the group like units icon and then try to direct them to a specific tile, the group of workers become "unselected" shortly thereafter. When I click back on the newly formed group, they are still a group and then I can direct them to where I please.

It is just a little annoying that they become "unselected" as a group after I select to grop them.

Anyone else experience this?

(BTW, this has been my experience with the game through all the various patches, Vanilla, Warlords and BtS)

[joncnunn]

The easyist way is to first build a Factory and Coal plant in your most hammer productive city that adjoins a river. Once the 3 Gorges goes online the extra unhealthiness from the Coal Plants go away.

Originally posted by Kuciwalker
How else would you build 3 Gorges?

[Kuciwalker]

It was a pun

[SpencerH]

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