The Chiron Chronicle: Discussions (4)

[Guardian]

General Armond Braddock
-from battlezone 2. the character's history is base on the one in the game. from Scientist to military General

Wow! He has a first name!
It's never been mentioned before. I've thought about giving him one, but I never quite agreed with myself on what it should be. This works!

Commander (now general it seems) Cooke
-the main character the player was playing in Battlezone 2

Well, I came to the conclusion that it would be kind of strange if Braddock was the only general, so I decided to promote Cooke and Grafton and add one or two more who haven't been introduced yet. Braddock is still the top dog though.

[[LordLMP]]

Originally posted by Mr. President
I like that "Crazy Fascist" one, DarkCloud. You don't know me, do you?

And LMP, glad to see you appreciate WarCraft II. You named another character Stromgarde, didn't you? I think their king was Thoras Trollbane, so his name wouldn't really be appropriate for this game. Maybe Terenas or Perenolde, though?

I use a lot of Scandinavian names, just because I think they sound cool. Michael Johansen, the name of the Morganic Industrial Co-Ordinator and Morgan's third-in-command, was also the name of a Danish soccer player who played for Bolton Wanderers until a couple of years ago. Our Defense Minister, Michelle Pellegrino, carries a Spanish name that I heard somewhere and rather liked. I also have a rather small cast of characters, it seems; Aron Fleischer (a caricature of the White House Press Secretary - you knew his name reminded you of something) is not involved much. But I do have plans for Matt Svensson of the Special Forces when the Alien Crossfire begins. A while ago I went through a period of basing my characters on myself and/or people I knew, but it didn't really work out.

I also used Gilneas in the Admin, but haven't really use tha character in the game yet. I have the Warcraft 2 manual, just like the Kingdoms name I got Larionov from the cover of some book i have seen when i was young. Don't know who it was, but i use that name for treacherous characters ...which in the game, he is still at Prison Island...been there for awhile now. As far as i am concerned, no other faction knows of the place yet :P

Another thing, PCB will be inbetween the Usurpers and the Caretakers

-LMP

[Sprayber]

Originally posted by Mr. President
On an unrelated note, I think it's cool that once again a city called Athens is making trouble for a state called Sparta. Who says history doesn't repeat itself?

This is the result of the last time that happened.

By 413 Athens's forces were demolished. In 411 an oligarchy briefly took power. When democratic leaders were restored by the navy later that year, they refused Spartan peace offers, and the war continued until 405, when the Athenian navy was destroyed at the Battle of Aegospotami with Persian help. Under blockade, Athens surrendered in 404. Its empire was dismantled, and the Spartans installed the Thirty Tyrants.

Those who fail to understand history are doomed to repeat it.

LMP: The map I have has Athens two squares inside Spartan terriory. Is there a Drone base that I do not know about? Cause that is what I have based my "ramblings" on.

[Clear Skies]

All my character names are either made up myself (Helena Dewarden, for example) or taken out of the official SMAC/X stories (Miyuki Gamma-4).

And if DarkCloud's based Zak on himself....whoa keep him away from me!

[[LordLMP]]

Originally posted by Sprayber


This is the result of the last time that happened.



Those who fail to understand history are doomed to repeat it.

LMP: The map I have has Athens two squares inside Spartan terriory. Is there a Drone base that I do not know about? Cause that is what I have based my "ramblings" on.

*blinks* I just realized something... i deleted SMAX sunday so i have room for other games...done so without thinking that i needed the game for CC... and deleted the CC map with it.... stupid me

only one i know that as the lastest up to date map is Bearcat....
Thank God i was smart enough to make the coordinates thing :P

anyway, i updated the map by putting some bases by the request of Bearcat. When I place them, it entered Athen Outpost one square within the Free Drone territory.

-LMP

[[LordLMP]]

I thought the Spartans was the bad guys :P oh well... Svensgaard never expected to keep the Athen Outpost for this long. Only got the outpost established to annoy the Spartans and eventually coax them to warfare... but the Place is legal and the territory wasn't Officially and Legally claimed by the Spartans. Gives the pirates a foot on the continent so they can strike at the spartans with ground units whenever a war happens with them.

-LMp

[Guardian]

Bad guys?

Let's see... the Hive, the Spartans, and to some extent the Believers and the University all fit into that category as far as the Peacekeepers are concerned...

-but are there any good guys left at all??!?

[Sprayber]

Originally posted by [LordLMP]
I thought the Spartans was the bad guys :P oh well... Svensgaard never expected to keep the Athen Outpost for this long. Only got the outpost established to annoy the Spartans and eventually coax them to warfare... but the Place is legal and the territory wasn't Officially and Legally claimed by the Spartans. Gives the pirates a foot on the continent so they can strike at the spartans with ground units whenever a war happens with them.

-LMp

Hmm in the game when a faction increases their territory all improvements go to that faction. Sensors, mines, stuff like that. I wonder if that kind of thing would be covered in a charter?

I'll check my map again.

[DarkCloud]

SMAC- I fixed the "Reputation"-Repetition debacle.

And, yes, he is based upon myself

I like that "Crazy Fascist" one, DarkCloud. You don't know me, do you?

Don't know you? How so?
The only reason I said he was a Crazy Fascist is because Fascists are proud and good people... Or at least the political philosophy at heart (like communism) is good... Ian just takes Fascism to the Nazi level at times.

Zakharov is the true Fascist. He wants good for ALL his people, although he absolutely hates the cyborgs who refuse to rejoin him; he wishes to reunite all the factions under his ideals; not necessarily himself, but at least with his ideals- and if no one else expresses the ideals- then he must take them up himself.

He sees the Hive as misguided and the Peackeepers as interferers with the natural process of selection of the fittest faction and peoples.

[[LordLMP]]

Originally posted by Guardian
Bad guys?

Let's see... the Hive, the Spartans, and to some extent the Believers and the University all fit into that category as far as the Peacekeepers are concerned...

-but are there any good guys left at all??!?

Svensgaard is a good guy

-LMP

[Guardian]

Originally posted by [LordLMP]

Svensgaard is a good guy

-LMP

Of course...

And of course, technically, there aren't any bad guys.
It's not a matter of who you are, it's your actions and your words that count.

Originally posted by Sprayber

Hmm in the game when a faction increases their territory all improvements go to that faction. Sensors, mines, stuff like that. I wonder if that kind of thing would be covered in a charter?

Eh...

What exactly are you talking about here???

[Guardian]

Originally posted by DarkCloud

The only reason I said he was a Crazy Fascist is because Fascists are proud and good people... Or at least the political philosophy at heart (like communism) is good... Ian just takes Fascism to the Nazi level at times.

Now this could make for an interesting discussion some time...
I'm with you as far as communism goes, but I must admit, I have a hard time seeing anything good about fascism. I've never really studied the philosophy though, so perhaps you know something I'm ignoring? Oh, and just for the record, I know the nazis did a lot of good for the German people. If it hadn't been for their total lack of tolerance for anyone who was "different" and the fact that they declared themselves the "master race" and set out to destroy everyone else in order to prove it, they might not have been so bad...

Zakharov is the true Fascist. He wants good for ALL his people, although he absolutely hates the cyborgs who refuse to rejoin him; he wishes to reunite all the factions under his ideals; not necessarily himself, but at least with his ideals- and if no one else expresses the ideals- then he must take them up himself.

Sounds like Zakharov's agenda is somewhat similar to Lal's in some respects.
However, Lal hates no one.

He sees the Hive as misguided and the Peacekeepers as interferers with the natural process of selection of the fittest faction and peoples.

Ah, yes, the Peacekeepers will be interfering lots and lots and then some more...
They think it's part of what being human is all about.

[[LordLMP]]

Originally posted by Guardian


Of course...

And of course, technically, there aren't any bad guys.
It's not a matter of who you are, it's your actions and your words that count.



Eh...

What exactly are you talking about here???

Lets say someone establishes a base smack dab next to your border... that border line there would change...giving the one who establish the base more territory from yours. If you have to have a Sensor Array, Bunker, farm, mine, etc there, then you would have to give that up.

Cheap and sneaky way to take territory from another faction. But in CC, the faction who is losing territory may not want to give that terrtitory up :P

Read Dragon Sun yet? Shows a good example of a territorial dispute between the Gaians and Morganites

-LMP

[[LordLMP]]

Svensgaard believes in freedom and freedom to roam the seas. He cares a lot about his faction and a lot of the things he does is base on keeping his people safe from any threats. But he is devious, sneaky, and territorial. He cares more about his faction then any others, but will help other people that asks... ala Kane Evecuation.


Anyway, i went back to the admin (3) thread... we need to create a new...yes again :P I saw Darkcloud's post at the end of it.....
Darkcloud! don't put numbers on my stats :P

As for how many unis one faction can have... well, i was thinking to use a little simple system using smax and Master of Orion 2 stats. Command Points...

One point per unit... The command points will be base on Support, Industry and Economy... no? Hard to calculate how much minerals a faction makes in total in CC.

Taking the Pirates for example... their Support is 0 and they have 31 bases... that equals to 62 free units, 62 Command Points.

......will finish this later, have to go else i will be late.... but think about it and want to keep it SIMPLE, not some Mathematic formula gibberish.

-LMP

[Guardian]

Originally posted by [LordLMP]

Lets say someone establishes a base smack dab next to your border... that border line there would change...giving the one who establish the base more territory from yours. If you have to have a Sensor Array, Bunker, farm, mine, etc there, then you would have to give that up.

Cheap and sneaky way to take territory from another faction. But in CC, the faction who is losing territory may not want to give that terrtitory up :P

Read Dragon Sun yet? Shows a good example of a territorial dispute between the Gaians and Morganites

-LMP

Okay, now I'm with you. (Duh... )

But... a border doesn't just move around on it's own in real life, now does it?
I mean... well, as you say, the faction in the receiving end might not stand for it.

Actually, I haven't read any of the books yet. I'm hearing great things about them though, so I suppose I should get my hands on them one of these days...