The Chiron Chronicle: Discussions (4)

[DarkCloud]

LMP- number caps... we would need some- but then again your system seems to be useful; but 62 units seems sort of equal and correct- but a bit too few considering there will be about 2-3 defending units for each city. 31 Bases! How did that happen!

What about this type of Command Points:

SUPPORT*Number of Cities*Economy*Population/ Money given to technology/market

Guardian- I am convinced that Fascism, if it did not persecute against any group of people and was not severely nationalistic, could work. I have not studied it much, but, I see that a democratic lawful police-state could fund itself and various social programs for the lawful poor.

[Clear Skies]

O...k, so basic human liberties, rights and freedoms mean absolutely nothing to you then...

Really, don't get me started with this. My Politics teacher ADORES playing devil's advocate and I had an hour-long argument with him over this.

[Sprayber]

Originally posted by [LordLMP]
Svensgaard believes in freedom and freedom to roam the seas. He cares a lot about his faction and a lot of the things he does is base on keeping his people safe from any threats. But he is devious, sneaky, and territorial. He cares more about his faction then any others, but will help other people that asks... ala Kane Evecuation.

Well, the Spartans would say that Sven only beleives about Pirate freedom to move around the seas(and maybe those who prop up his ego). And from Pirate actions, could you really blame them for thinking that. Now Sven may think he believes in freedom. As for the Spartans, It would be interesting to note that the Spartans only started going off to far corners of the planet(except to establish that outpost in the far north on no ones territory) when the Pirates put Athens down. It may be a case of Sven creating a Spartan boogy man to justify the Pirates defending the seas.

[Guardian]

Well, the Peacekeepers would say that they've tried the peaceful co-existance thing with Sparta and that the results were rather hideous...

Perhaps the Spartans haven't been going off to far corners of the planet for very long, but they've sure managed to make a hell of a mess on the Eastern Continent!

Yes, it is a long time ago, but the PKs still don't trust Sparta.
They basically figure that the Pirates have been trying to contain Spartan aggression and that such action is acceptable because the alternative is so much worse...

[Sprayber]

Originally posted by Guardian
Well, the Peacekeepers would say that they've tried the peaceful co-existance thing with Sparta and that the results were rather hideous...

Perhaps the Spartans haven't been going off to far corners of the planet for very long, but they've sure managed to make a hell of a mess on the Eastern Continent!

Yes, it is a long time ago, but the PKs still don't trust Sparta.
They basically figure that the Pirates have been trying to contain Spartan aggression and that such action is acceptable because the alternative is so much worse...

They better start thinking about how the Pirates are going to start the next war. Unless that's what the PKs really want..

[Guardian]

Nope. They don't want that... they just don't see the Pirates as "starting" much of anything...

[Sprayber]

Originally posted by Guardian
Nope. They don't want that... they just don't see the Pirates as "starting" much of anything...

Well, i suppose you guys will be surprised then. cause Sparta is going to go on about its business, and sooner or later the pirates will go too far. but they are going to make the pirates fire the first shot. (which they will) maybe the pks can stop thinking in past tense, cause the spartans don't..

[Guardian]

We'll see...

You might have had an easier time getting your message through if your representatives hadn't been running around accusing us of "starting things" also...

Many of our people feel that is just so plainly bull, they don't even listen when you complain about the Pirates...

[Guardian]

Originally posted by Sprayber

maybe the pks can stop thinking in past tense, cause the spartans don't..

Then how come you're always talking about what the UN did wrong way back on Earth?

[Sprayber]

Originally posted by Guardian


Then how come you're always talking about what the UN did wrong way back on Earth?

Cause we're trying to get the PKs to think a little beyond their black and white outlook.

That and Solo likes to push the Ambassadors buttons.

[Guardian]

Well, the Peacekeepers feel their outlook is anything but black and white...

Spartan relations are kind of special though...

I suppose you could call that black and white, but it's like that for a reason and the reason wasn't our creation...

Of course, that doesn't make it right and just, but if it can save a few thousand civilians...

Like I said, we don't trust Sparta at all.

[[LordLMP]]

Originally posted by DarkCloud
LMP- number caps... we would need some- but then again your system seems to be useful; but 62 units seems sort of equal and correct- but a bit too few considering there will be about 2-3 defending units for each city. 31 Bases! How did that happen!

Darkcloud, I wasn't finish :P and i had to go. 62 is the amount of free Units the Pirates can Have. So 62 free Command Points. That is the obvious and the easiest to find out.
As for the 31 bases, just did

What about this type of Command Points:

SUPPORT*Number of Cities*Economy*Population/ Money given to technology/market

hmm, that won't work. Will take quite some work to acquire the total amount of people each faction as, even a general number. Same with Money... do that, then we would have to update it all of the time and it is simply tome consuming...for me anyway and I am lazy in such things

Was thinking to give bonuses to social engineering base on the tech and secret project you have... Industrial Automation is a big one... i say it removes any negative Industry... for the Pirates case, instead of -2 Industry, it will be Zero. Then there is Industrial Economics, Planetary Economics, techs that gives bonuses to how much resources you can acquire.

Also, the Pirates have Mineral/Energy/Nutrient bonuses in water squares...and i have mention they use Supply Crawlers/ships like that mining operation west of Mount Planet, Geothermal Shallows, and Fossil Field Ridge.

lets see...

For each Borehole = 5 command points

Freebies = Support x Number of Bases

For each Obelisk = 2 Command Points

The Ruins = 20 Command Points

New Sargasso = 2 x # of bases there or nearby (within radius or supply)

Borehole Cluster = 3 x Number of Bases

Fossil Field Ridge = 2 x Number of Bases there/nearby bases using supply ships

Mount Planet = 2 x Number of Bases there

...for example


not sure how to do this.

-LMP

[Sprayber]

Originally posted by [LordLMP]

Was thinking to give bonuses to social engineering base on the tech and secret project you have... Industrial Automation is a big one... i say it removes any negative Industry... for the Pirates case, instead of -2 Industry, it will be Zero. Then there is Industrial Economics, Planetary Economics, techs that gives bonuses to how much resources you can acquire.

So the Spartans -1 Industry would be gone to uh? That works for me...

[[LordLMP]]

Originally posted by Sprayber


Well, the Spartans would say that Sven only beleives about Pirate freedom to move around the seas(and maybe those who prop up his ego). And from Pirate actions, could you really blame them for thinking that. Now Sven may think he believes in freedom. As for the Spartans, It would be interesting to note that the Spartans only started going off to far corners of the planet(except to establish that outpost in the far north on no ones territory) when the Pirates put Athens down. It may be a case of Sven creating a Spartan boogy man to justify the Pirates defending the seas.

The Pirates knew how the Spartan society is...where in some areas, it is similar. Svensgaard knew since the Factions early infiltration of the Spartans that they would be a strong oponent, aswell as a good ally. but so far, the Spartans doesn't provide Svensgaard enough reasons to try to make friends with them. Aslong as the Spartans is limited to their continent, the Pirates are happy

Anyway, after the purge by the Spartan intelligence before the internal problems came up badly weaken the Pirates infiltration efforts. But was able to improve the Infiltration efforts during the problems and during the Spartans short period of Probe vulneribility after the War, where Kessel got the Intelligence purged and the Head of Intel...and Kessel's reorganization of the Government and so on. So, the Pirates have infiltrated the Spartans quite well....but not to the point to know every single secret thing and the infiltrators avoid Sparta Command. The Infiltrators only report to Nautilus Command over important big things thats needs to be immediatel reported. But, other then that, they keep minimal contact with the Pirates to avoid detection...

anyway :P Easier for the Pirates to infiltrate the Spartans then the Spartans to infiltrate the Pirates :P Hard to sneak in Pirate Bases in general due to bases locations, being remote and Pirate Navy agressively patrols and quite suspicious of merchants

-LMP

[[LordLMP]]

Originally posted by Sprayber


They better start thinking about how the Pirates are going to start the next war. Unless that's what the PKs really want..

Says who the Pirates will start the War?

-LMP